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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/23 20:28:22
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Hey shaun. Thanks so much!! Very helpful . I think i will go efi . manifold.... i have had one offered to me... and im gunna jump on it! Next mission with be the ecu side of things... way out of my league.... well until i get my head around it lol
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 12:19:59
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How much will a standard bottom end take? Thinking of worked head and maybe forged pistons.... running 6-12psi
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 12:55:20
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It's the piston rings that won't cope with the pressures of the turbo over time. Forged pistons will be good. Matt
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 13:18:09
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I was under the impression that not too much work is needed to be done to a pinto for it to flow well for a turbo setup. Turbos don't really need high lift cams or huge porting like NA engines prefer. Typical polishing and light porting is fine, as the exhaust ports are quiet a decent size already (as I'm sure you know). Turbo cam grind would be ideal of course. If going to the extent of doing a bit of work on a Pinto to make it cope with bigger turbo power, isn't it almost worth just getting a complete Cosworth YB setup which is basically ready to go and going to be rock solid from the get go? Pretty easy conversion too. eg. http://www.gumtree.com.au...orth-engine/1070989192
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 15:12:06
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If i had that money to do it i would. But! Over time can afford it... as its all in stages.. if that makes sense. Lol
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 15:38:38
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No i know exactly what you mean! And also part of the reason why mine has taken so long amongst other reasons  Good luck with the build!!
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 15:43:50
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So light head work, standard crank with strong rings and forged pistons... im liking this... alot :)
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 15:45:28
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Thanks mate. Yeah slow and steady keeps my bank balance okay. And misses happy lol
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 18:26:23
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Turbo engines respond the same to porting as NA. Dont let anyone tell you different. I.e., A well ported head will make more power on the same boost, or, less boost is required on a ported head to make the same power over a non ported head. Think of 'boost' as a measure of restriction, the less restriction, the less boost to make the same power. Turbos dont 'generally' like long duration cams, however as much lift as you can safely get the better. There is a limit, and the more lift, the shorter the lifespan of the drivetrain. On a street pinto, you're probably better off just with the standard cam. There does come a time when you do need long duration big lift cams for turbos as you simply cant get the volume in however that discussion is for another time and probably not the type of engine you are building. A standard fresh bottom end will take 6psi all day every day however compression/fueling.spark are all a factor. The weak part as mentioned is the ring lands. I can provide photos of the collection of LC pistons i have here! With forged pistons, go for it. Costs can, and will get away from you, and paying for bits at a time is kinda like a mortgage, You will end up paying more. When you add it all up, and depending on the power you are chasing, a running cossie for around $7500 is cheap, a jap front cut at around $3000 is a steal. Shaun
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 21:01:46
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Righto then. Soooo what do you say for valves? Okay well its not going to be a race car... so 6psi will still be fun!. So if i got this right. For a efi turbo street pinto. Port and polished head, standard cam? Standard vales? And standard bottom end with forge pistons.... so with this in mind a standard type 9 will be fine for the power? And diff???
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 21:12:38
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From what it sounds like you are after, standard valves and with a decent port job will suffice. If you are on a budget, keep your eyes out for a completed head or secondhand set of valves. The only thing you will have to watch is that most big valve ported heads will have had a fair bit skimmed off them to raise the compresson for NA use, not what you are after. Standard crank and rods will be fine. Standard type 9 'should' hold up fine provided you are not abusing it. Same goes for the diff. Shaun
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 21:14:49
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 21:43:29
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Okay cool!! Yeah the budget is tight. With a standard head. What head gasket? What about a shim plate?
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 22:10:37
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Crow 26661 has more overlap than you will need. The guys on Skogen tend to run much larger/longer duration cams as they are running big turbos that will choke with standard, smaller cams. You might make big power numbers, but it will have a very peaky top end and lots of lag. Fine if you want some fun with a car that breaks into wheelspin above 4 grand, but in realty, not much fun on the street. You will have a much more driveable car with a milder or standard cam. Shaun
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Re: whos built a turbo pinto... need your brain!
2015/02/24 22:33:31
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Thanks shaun.... sounds good to me. :) budget turbo build coming my way!! So the car its all going in currently 1.6 standard mk2. Does it have a lsd or not? How hard is it to get one that is. If so...
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