+80 hp. How would you do it?

if its possible, how would you do it?

Say the rules were
no efi
pinto based

can it be done with NA or only FI?


Secondly, how would you get that power to the ground?

Cheers boys.
Food for though :D

It's all about getting as much fuel and air through as possible!
Here's how I'd do it:
Port the head as far as it can go, get a good cam with a nice power band of say 3000-7000 (crow do a wicked street/race cam with great specs and the same power band that I had on my old Pinto), get some bigger valves and good valve springs to get the extra revs, and some twin 48 DCOE/DHLA's as a minimum.
For the bottom end I'd probably have it bored out 60thou at least, then do necessary strengthening such as pistons and rods.
With that sorted you can move on to a good electronic ignition, and a good electronic fuel pump (anything that's not a Holley, that's just my opinion and preference) and also a good exhaust is definitely important, I wouldn't bother with an "off the shelf" system ;)
 
Makes me want to do it now. Hahaha.

did look at that, but essentially i got no idea where you shop for parts for things like this.

cool ill have a bo peep.
 
an idea ive been toying with, 
on a hot build would a holley 650 spreadbore DP work in place of twin webbers?
 
i have a new one around here from my old 308. was hoping id use it one day

Lots of port work, big cam, deck the head and block, 40thou over acl flattop pistons get the compression up to 10.5:1, oversized valves, double valvesprings etc good ignition setup twin 45mm webber carbs =140rwhp and 200+ with a shot of gas... Thats wat a mate had

If i was to do it i would keep the pinto standard and put a small (t28) turbo on it and run 12-15psi

Surely its got to be cheaper than a zetec to do the pinto?
$1000 for the engine
$3000 for the kit
About $2000 or so for the enginering report plus any other bits and pieces the you need to tune the extra 50hp(thats all at a rough guess give or take)
Please correct me if im off the mark with any of those numbers
I can definitely see the reliability argument over a pinto with this sort of power(180+hp).
Now i dont know how much it costs to do the pinto build but it has to be less than four or five grand doesnt it? 
  
  

I think people underestimate how much it costs and whats involved to get NA power from old engines. Either that or they overestimate the power they will actually achieve.
 
Also keep in mind.. from taking it from 100hp in standard form to 180hp your increasing the power nearing double of what it was designed for.
 
Pinto's are quiet a cheap engine to work on up to about 145hp which will make quiet a strong fun engine as long as you don't over rev it. Due to having quiet large ports and good torque, you can simply add extractors, twin carbs, fast road cam, higher CR pistons,  light head work and polish etc.. And the numbers you estimated could be around that mark if you were smart. 
 
But from there going over 180-200hp range your looking at a complete serious spec rebuild. Including all new bottom end, (i would be looking at a 205 block to start with) right through to big spec head work and things like uprated starter motors, distributors, alternator and fuel system..
 
Although obviously in the UK not here in Aus, Vulcan now have an online calculator as to what it costs to get a HP figure. Of course this is using new parts and labour from a reputable engine builder. You could go cheaper, but then you don't want constant niggles or things going bang when you've spent all that money do you..

www.vulcanengines.com 
 
For a more realistic estimate id get a hold of someone reputable here in Australia like  www.larnerengines.com.au who will know how to build a good strong engine.
 

I picked up a 80k blacktop zetec for $650. Got my R1 bike carbs off ebay U.S for  $140 just need to get my arse into gear now!