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2.3L pinto
Is the head on the 2.3pinto the same as the 2?
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/26 20:10:14
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incase u dont get a reply, i was told they share no matching parts..
but why would you want a 2.3 head on a 2.0?
what u would want is putting a 2.0 head on a 2.3
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/26 21:36:39
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Thanks Sterling
I don't want to put the 2.3 on the 2 or the other way around lol
My engine went to the doctor and had that many things wrong with it the doc is amazed that it lived at all. And he hasn't seen as much be wrong with an engine and still work in his life.
The reason i want to know is I can get a rebuilt 2.3L pinto cheaper than the cost of half fixing mine. And i want to know if 2L parts i can get will fit.
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/26 22:36:22
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They are completely differen engines, different bore spacing, very little is interchangable. Rods and r rockers come to mind.
Shaun
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/26 23:58:52
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I thought they was but my engine builder was SURE that they where the same. I think i need a new engine builder...
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/27 01:16:46
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Looks like it. He's come up with a couple of clangers by the sounds of it.
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/27 06:24:53
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I'm not sticking up for the engine builder but I know quite a few people that thought the 2.3 was the same - I am going back 20 odd years though..
never bothered to spend the time scanning the net doing more research - lol
finding information these days is soooo much easier than it used to be
But
I do know where a 2.3 pinto is ( bored & stroked )
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/27 08:46:18
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They are a great engine with HUGE aftermarket support in the states. Turbo and injection as standard on some engines, stroker kits to around 3litres, aftermarket alloy race heads etc. Many also do the volvo 16v head conversion for big power.
But yes, nothing much in common with the English/Oz 2.0.
Shaun
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/27 18:37:04
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Hmm it does look like a very good engine when its turboed. And im wanting to turbo the esky when im off my P's.
How hard do you guys reckon it would be to get one of these into the escort? Couldn't be as hard as the likes of an SR or a Zetec could it?
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/27 20:50:58
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wouldn't bother unless your really wanting to try something new/different..
how urgent are you to get the car back on the road?
u could always slot in a 5 speed, get your block rebuilt, and slide a cossie twin cammer head into place.. then the usual tweaks (carbies cams, exhaust etc) send you soaring with power.
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/27 21:46:12
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the 2.3 is a completely different engine, i dont think the rockers will swap. The head has 5 brgs for the cam not 3. It looks like a 2.0 on steroids and has a alloy r/cover std. If you can find 1 thats turbo'd it will give lots of sideways action from their 230bhp, get the gearbox from the car too (Mustang '85-'93?, and the Ford Murkur)a Sierra looking thing(XR4i), a total rebuild should be done as these motors usually smoke lots from early on..
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/27 23:25:00
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Rightyo completely different engine, got it.
So now I'm looking at doing an engine conversion with one as I can get my hands on a fully rebuilt 2.3pinto with forged pistons for $1100. unsure on the year will have to confirm that. But its the non turbo version so i think stock the highest is 92hp out of it.
"One major change to hit the industry in 1972 was in the method used to measure horsepower. Using a net figure based on engine power received at the rear wheels rather than the gross number generated untethered on a test stand (incorrect, net hp is measured at the flywheel, but with the engine fully dressed with accessories), the 75 bhp (56 kW) rating of Pinto's 1.6 litres (98 cu in) engine dropped to 54 bhp (40 kW) for 1972, while the bigger 2.0 litres (120 cu in) four went from 100 horsepower (75 kW) in 1971 to 86 hp (64 kW) in '72.[7]" - Wiki
So thats 92hp that the wheels =)
What makes this all the more interesting is that Ford got the thunderbird Turbo Coupe to 142 kW (190 hp) and 325 N·m (240 ft·lbf) with injection and a turbo. That would be enough for me.
Thanks for the info marty i will look into that gearbox and see if i can find one on US ebay.
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/28 01:08:02
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Have a looky at this Pinto'd motorbike!!!!
There is also pics of a 2.3 turbo unit from a Thunderbird.
http://www.bob2000.com/pinto2.htm
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/28 02:41:39
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2.0 Pinto weighs about 145 kg
2.3 Pinto weighs about 190 kg
2.3 Pinto Turbo weighs about 205 kg
Something to think about
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RE: 2.3L pinto
2009/11/28 14:14:18
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I found a site that says a bare 2L is 130kg and the 2.3turbo with turbo and flywheel is 170kg EDIT:204kg with everything attached
40kgs in it. If i added a flywheel and a turbo to the 2L it would be what around the 140-145 mark. So thats 25kgs in it. The extra power that the 2.3 will make over the 2L makes up for the weight. In a straight line.
In regards to handling if i can get the engine to sit further back so the same ammount of weight is over the front wheels it will still handle the same sorta yeah?
thanks for the help guys.
Oh and marty that bike is crazy! 1 gear 0-160mph holy poo poo!!!! thanks for the links =)
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