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2013/09/23 21:06:21 (permalink)
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Weber 44IDF advice please...

Getting to the engine side of my rebuild. The car had some sidedraughts, they taught me a lot but it's time for an old dog to learn a new trick.............
Looking at 44IDF's, I can get the carbs, jets and filters ok and a repo manifold, I haven't looked to hard for an original yet.
 
How hard will an original be too find? and what do I look for, do they crack? warp? what stamping/ markings will it have?
What sort of fuel pump and pressure is needed?
Any ideas on the best throttle linkage set up?
Finally what are they actually like to drive on and tune?
 
Any advice please............
 
 
 

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    mud
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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/23 21:14:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Drewdog 2013/09/25 19:27:17
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    Can't help much, except to say I had them on a rally car years ago and never had any problems with them. Checked the tune regularly but hey were never out. Wish I never sold them actually.

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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/24 11:21:20 (permalink)
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    They are great.  Manifolds are old now so can have cracks and/or corrosion usually where the water runs between 2 and 3.
    I ran mine for ages on a standard mechanical pump but if going electric they are like side draughts and done like high pressure. 4psi is heaps!
     
    Cable - My set up can use a standard 2 litre escort cable. Cant get any easier than that!
     
    I have a genuine Ford IDF manifold in pretty good condition with a pair of 48IDF's on it that i bought new and only used for one season.  Would need a fairly strong pinto to work but made 128RWKW on my MK1.  I would sell them complete for $1200
     

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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/24 18:56:42 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Drewdog 2013/09/25 19:27:38
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    Cheers guys, questions answered......
    Looking closer at these repo manifolds, but they've got no water gallery so that's no good as I want the comfort of a heater this time around. Hey Gdub, dropped a PM.....
    Thanks again........ 

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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/24 20:30:35 (permalink)
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    You can take the coolant for your heater from the plug located under the 4th spark plug and plumb this into your heater.
     
    It's what I have done.
     
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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/25 09:40:49 (permalink)
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    That seems like a good deal, Gdub. I sold my 44's on a genuine manifold 15 years ago for $1100!
     

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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/25 11:26:38 (permalink)
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    Why are you going the 44IDF route.  If you want performance twin 40 or 45 DCOEs are the way to go.  Remember additional bends on intake systems are a restriction to air flow, hence loss of torque (HP).
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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/25 11:50:20 (permalink)
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    You will get better torque out of IDF's because the inlet runners are longer than a DCOE manifold on an Escort but perhaps at the expense of a little top end.  Thats why i went that way at the time.
     
    My motor made around 125RWKW when it had 44's on the same manifold. The power range was better with the 48's

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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/25 19:18:35 (permalink)
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    The pieces of the puzzle are coming together now.............
    Nice one Matt, just been out for a look and there's the magic solution, wicked.......
    Planning an engine and going for a group 1 head and induction this time around, as a tried a tested setup. Never thought I'd say this but not really after max power just enough to put a smile on my dial, I will miss the sidedraughts but that was sooo last rebuild

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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/26 11:32:18 (permalink)
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    Performances differences aside, I've always thought IDFs really look the business.  Good luck with it.

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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/26 11:39:29 (permalink)
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    One other benefit Drew dog, you will LOVE the easy access you will have to that side of the engine bay with IDF's over DCOE's. As an example i could remove the starter motor from the top without having to crawl unde the car!

    Make it go FASTER!
     
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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/26 22:03:40 (permalink)
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    From the pics I've seen the trumpets on top look pretty horny (excuse the pun).....
    So I officially started the engine build tonight and ordered manifold, a pump and regulator, sorting out the fitting for the heater this weekend. Carbs and jets in a week or two. Will start posting them up on the cars thread as things arrive .
    Thanks all, I'm looking forward to playing with some new webers............

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    Re: Weber 44IDF advice please... 2013/09/27 15:00:08 (permalink)
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    Dont go wasting any money buying jets until you get it on a dyno

    Make it go FASTER!
     
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