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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/04 21:17:53 (permalink)
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Now here are 2 timing covers, Oval port has the fan offset to the left.  D Port has the fan in line with the crank 

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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/04 21:23:00 (permalink)
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Now for Inlet manifolds, Oval Port has the extra round casting lump near the thermostat.  D Port is smooth 
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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/04 21:42:00 (permalink)
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Den, the engine you have in your car is an Oval Port.  Despite its CK17ME prefix, it is not from one of the 11 "special" capris.  It is just an engine from a capri delivered in August 1972. 
 
The crossmember and steering rack in your other photos are Mk1 V6 Capri items.  The 11 Specials did not use anything different in that regard.  All V6 capris (special or not) had a 6 bolt cross member

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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/04 21:57:59 (permalink)
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Wiggy, it's history like your recollections that really adds to the pleasure of owning these classics.
 
I hope one day, someone with more time than me, does the comprehensive research needed to write an accurate Aussie Mk1 book just for Capri.
Commerce will dictate that Cortina and Escort should be included, which is fair enough.
 
On history, it's strange our Mk1 Capris which ran from 1969 to 1972 weren't called Mk2,
and the 1965 Consul Capri the Mk1 ! .......  go figure
 
 

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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/04 23:18:58 (permalink)
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I hope one day, someone with more time than me, does the comprehensive research needed to write an accurate Aussie Mk1 book just for Capri.
Commerce will dictate that Cortina and Escort should be included, which is fair enough.
 
On history, it's strange our Mk1 Capris which ran from 1969 to 1972 weren't called Mk2,
and the 1965 Consul Capri the Mk1 ! .......  go figure

Bernie, nearly a score or more books have already been written about the European Capri, though none are specifically about our Australian assembled Capri's, though they have been mentioned in many of these already published books. IF, a book is ever written just about our Australian assembled Capri's, it could not and should not include Cortina's and Escort's, because there were less than 15,000 Capri's assembled here in Australia between April, 1969 and November, 1972, a very small number compared to Cortina's and Escort's. Cortina's were assembled here from late 1962 through to August, 1982, how many is anyone's guess, but it would be over the 100,000 mark and Escorts were assembled here from early 1970 through to March, 1981 and there were, according to official Ford Australia records, 146,849 Escort's built here in Australia during that period.
 
As for the Consul Capri (1962-1964) potentially being a Mk.1, there were Capri's before that during the 1950's in the USA, Lincoln Cosmopolitan Capri's and Lincoln Capri's and then, there were also Mercury Comet Capri's in the mid-60's in the USA, before the actual European Mk.1 Capri came out in 1969. Any Capri prior to Mk.1 in 1969 however was on a completely different chassis to the European Capri! Also, whilst the Mk.3 Capri was around from 1978 to 1986, there was also a Mercury Capri, again in the USA, based on the Fox platform, from 1979 through to 1986, these were cousins of the Ford Mustang of that same era, with different sheet metal and many other cosmetic changes and engine combo's. Then of course there was the Australian Capri Convertible from 1988-1994. I hope that helps you with your dilemma about the Capri name and where it's come from. What we now know as the Mk.1, 2 & 3 Capri's, are all based upon the same or very similar chassis, which is why they are bracketed together and called the European Capri. I hope all this helps.
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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/05 00:11:40 (permalink)
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Very informative and appreciated Terry.
 
Yes Terry, I agree: Book should be unique to our Aussie Capri Mk1. The author would want to know how many are still "alive", and of those, how many owners would  buy a copy to make production feasible ?
 
Thanks for the extra "cords" to the Capri Tapestry ............... just love it

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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/05 00:20:52 (permalink)
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Great pics John..............any chance of pics of the 2 Inlet manifolds please ?   Cheers

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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/05 00:23:32 (permalink)
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Sorry.........I see youve just posted the I/M too! ....and Fr Covers!......thanks John

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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/05 09:23:41 (permalink)
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The Dport heads can be identified on car easily without the inlet manifold. The Dport heads above the center exhaust port have an oval with Ford cast in. The oval port has similar cast stamp on the first exhaust port but it's rectangular and says FOMOCO.
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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/05 10:05:58 (permalink)
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Yes Terry, I agree: Book should be unique to our Aussie Capri Mk1. The author would want to know how many are still "alive", and of those, how many owners would  buy a copy to make production feasible ?

Bernie, whilst I like your idea, I don't think I've ever owned or read a book that had numbers of any cars still 'alive', let alone a particular model like the Capri. In Australia, with 6 States and 2 Territories, it would be impossible to get this type of information, due to privacy laws and of course, just the normal bureaucratic BS within these government departments!

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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/06 11:34:48 (permalink)
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FoxyCapri - RE:
 In Australia, with 6 States and 2 Territories, it would be impossible to get this type of information, due to privacy laws and of course, just the normal bureaucratic BS within these government departments!
 
This type of thing has been done by someone in an Australian-based Triumph Car Club (Stag owner).
Some states were more receptive than others to the idea of providing limited vehicle details. Some state authorities required FOI type formal requests with the attendant fees to gain this information.
Of the approx 25000 Stags produced by the UK-based manufacturer, the local register has around 1500 entries, with approx 400 having known ownership and identity match.   I'm sure there a vehicles on this list that have double entries, which are being resolved.
The person doing this task is currently matching Owner to Vehicle (rego and/or VIN).   With information requests to the Australian Triumph clubs with a simple details request form,  gathering event photos to seed a register entry, and including the vehicles identified by the state authorities, he has achieved what might seem an impossible goal.
He has been doing this task for approx 12 months.
 
So it is possible, just takes a lot of legwork and some dealings with officialdom.
 

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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/06 16:25:52 (permalink)
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Some people like myself wouldn't want that information known. Especially in today's age with big brother watching all the time. I see no point knowing how many are left if you don't know the condition the car is in. I have three derelict cars that the register might pick up but they will never get back on the road. A book about all Aussie Capris I'm all for as they are very different to those built overseas (some good points and other bad points).
Also who holds the register with all the secret info? On my 2c!
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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/06 23:00:21 (permalink)
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The last thing I would want to do is to start enquiring to all Road Transport depts, Australia-wide, hunting for details of existing Capri's still on their databases! IF, someone else wants to try, by all means, have a go, but I really don't see why and for what benefit. As Wiggy333 states he wouldn't want that information known, hence my privacy laws comment above.
 
As far as a book goes, I'd be interested in that idea but .... what a mammoth task, though it is not an impossible one! What would the bones of the book be, ie. proposed Chapters perhaps? Any idea's? I have a few of my own.
 
To my knowledge there is NO register of Capri's anywhere in the country, though it has been mooted once or twice on this forum. Perhaps the best we have are the lists of all entrants who attended Capriciation 2009 in Wagga Wagga and Capriciation 2019 in Albury last April.
 
 

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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/07 02:10:17 (permalink)
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This is how some MGA owners keep a register.
http://members.optusnet.com.au/danielmlevy/register.html
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Re: Can anyone give us a clear understanding about these numbers. Take note I'm 13 yrs of 2019/10/09 11:12:48 (permalink)
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GTV6
This is how some MGA owners keep a register.
http://members.optusnet.com.au/danielmlevy/register.html

A very NICE register indeed however, I'm sure that with all those vehicle details and the owner information, not to mention the actual chassis and engine number, it's too much information to be just let loose on the internet! And, I'm still not sure why we need a register at all, like Wiggy333 said.
 
After scratching my brain I now do recall that some years ago, a Brisbane couple used to run a Capri Owners Register, Australia, which I think was run more like a Club, with a regular newsletter, rather than a vehicle register.
 
Anyway, that's my two bobs worth! Terry

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