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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/16 19:47:32 (permalink)
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matt, are you grounding the coil lead or the coil negative wire.

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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/16 20:37:11 (permalink)
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I am taking the lead out of the dizzy cap and grounding that one.
 
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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/16 20:50:24 (permalink)
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Matt, dont ground the high tension wire from the centre of the dissy cap, you need to hold this with a small gap (2-3mm) away from a clean earth point. when you wind over the engine OR tap an earth on the coil -ve with the ignition on you  should see a spark jump across the gap from high tension lead to the earth point.  alternatively get a helper to hang onto the high tension lead whilst leaning on the car, if 'they' jump/curse you have spark, and a smile. goodluck

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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/16 20:52:46 (permalink)
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Sorry Mate if I didn't make sense. 
 
That is exactly what I did with no spark jumping across the gap.
 
LOL on the helper.  Might remember that for my 6 year old next time he wants to help.
 
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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 17:32:14 (permalink)
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I got a new coil and issue remains.  Ther is no spark at all coming out of the coil when I try to ground the ht lead coign from it. 
 
I get 12v both sides of the coil but no spark.
 
What else could it be but the leads?  Very frustrated.  Might have a beer.
 
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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 19:44:36 (permalink)
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maybe you have a problem with the ignition switch?
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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 20:02:26 (permalink)
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That's one of the things I am starting to suspect.

How can you bypass the switch to confirm if it works or not?

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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 20:34:58 (permalink)
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Just run 12v straight off the fuse box. Do you see 12v both sides with the points closed?

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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 20:54:45 (permalink)
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12v to the + side of the coil you mean from the fuse box? 
 
I was getting 12v but just checked then and now I get 6 to 7 v to the "+" and about .3v to  "-".
 
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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 21:58:28 (permalink)
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you'll probably find you get 12v back when the points are open. this means you have a dirty connector between the 12v souce and the coil. with the points closed and seeing 6v at the coil, check the voltage either side of those dodgy fuses on the firewall. im assuming the ignition is fed from 1 of them and you will see 12v on the battery side and 6v on the other side of the fuse which feeds the ignition. damn mr ford was good, just took the cover off my box and it aint labelled. maybe a manual will id the ignition fuse...

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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 22:02:43 (permalink)
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Cheers,
 
Will have a crack tomorrow.
 
Could a stuffed condensor also be the culprit?
 
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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 22:08:26 (permalink)
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does an escort run a ballast resistor, usually a block mounted to the side of the coil. my car runs coil packs off the ecu & the rs2000 has electonic ignition so i dont know what std looks like.

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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 22:10:25 (permalink)
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Yes it does.  I checked the resistance on that and it seems fine.
 
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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 22:24:48 (permalink)
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wouldnt be the condensor in the dissy. again you can disconnect this for testing. you could have a condensor/capacitor/radio supressor (depends what you call it)hanging off the coil. you can disconnect this too. moneys on the fuse isnt making a good connection or a corroded connector in the ignition bay if there is one  stacks with failed after washing.

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Re:HEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPP! Car won't start! 2012/10/18 22:27:53 (permalink)
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Thanks for your help.  
 
I'll have a look tomorrow
 
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