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Re: Ford factory special 2019/09/30 23:27:07 (permalink)
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Engine number ck17me 34040p

This chassis/engine number is NOT one of the 11 Ford Factory Capri 'specials'!

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Re: Ford factory special 2019/10/01 12:24:12 (permalink)
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BEE VEE
My "Special D-port 165HP" eng no is CK17ME33191P
Does anyone know what the other numbers are for the other 10 "Specials" please, other than they all started with CK17ME ---- P ? (with one ending in C in lieu of P)



Bernie, at this link you'll find a list of the unaccounted for 'Specials' as at 14 August, 2012, posted by ronsmallford:
 
https://www.classic-ford.org/cfp/tm.aspx?m=5623&high=ford+capri+specials&mpage=16
 
Yours is on that list, clearly now found, as well as another since found, that being CK17ME33190. This now leaves just 5 'Specials' to find, as listed.
 
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Re: Ford factory special 2019/10/01 22:53:23 (permalink)
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Den
No different to when I bought two penny farthings. Was told by a club not original. Yet years later, I put one up for sale, club member couldn't get here fast enough to depart with $10.000. if it's not down as one of the eleven,. I will need to do more research. By the way who wrote or typed this list of bss. Show it.

Den, the list of eleven 'Special' Capri's is taken directly from a Ford Australia Memorandum with the subject heading, Up-Rated Capri V6 Manuals and dated March 13, 1973. It was written by G.D. Grover, Specifications and Programming Supervisor, Parts and Service Office, Ford Motor Company of Australia Limited, Campbellfield. Only 4 of the 11 were sold by Bib Stillwell as BSS units, the other 7 units were 'Capitalised' units used by Ford Executives. Your CK17ME34040P is definitely, not on the list, sorry! BTW, there are a number of 'Special' owners who are or were, operating on this forum.
 
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Re: Ford factory special 2019/10/02 10:12:06 (permalink)
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That's strange, yet you have another member claim he owns one of the eleven. The number of items and more seem to be on this car colour condition and serial numbered. Please explain?

Please explain what? You have failed to ask a question here. And BeeVee does own one of the 11 'Specials'!

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Re: Ford factory special 2019/10/02 11:05:36 (permalink)
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Cheers and thanks Terry
 
Den, reportedly 13 y/o, appears very interested in our Capris and the "Eleven Specials" ...........  wish I had his passion and this amazing gift called the WWW for cars when I was 13 !
 
Terry, is there a list somewhere showing the "other" 4 ID numbers that were originally known by all and never on the "where-are-they-now-Eleven Specials" list ?
 
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Re: Ford factory special 2019/10/02 12:31:52 (permalink)
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BEE VEE
Cheers and thanks Terry
Terry, is there a list somewhere showing the "other" 4 ID numbers that were originally known by all and never on the "where-are-they-now-Eleven Specials" list ?



Bernie, only on the official Ford Australia memorandum letter referred to above!
 
As those four remaining Capri 'Specials' are alive and well, I'm not sure that the owners would want their vehicles specific identity numbers spread around the internet, in the interest of privacy, etc. I can say that one is in Queensland and the three others are all in Victoria, as well as yours. So, five are alive, five are still missing or 'deceased' and one was a write-off!
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Re: Ford factory special 2019/10/02 15:39:21 (permalink)
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UPDATE:
I just realised that ronsmallford has already uploaded the actual Ford Australia letter/Memo detailing all information known about the eleven (11) Ford Capri Factory 'Specials'! You'll find it under the Capri by the Numbers area at this link: https://www.classic-ford.org/cfp/tm.aspx?m=85222
 
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Re: Ford factory special 2019/10/02 18:24:36 (permalink)
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Den vehicles are made and mostly sat exported stored then sold. Manufactures leave small items out and then install when a car is sold. All from a range need to be sold Quickly. Your car is a 1970 plate from what you have said with just this motor. Can you post your chassis number as your info can let all of us help you. Your motor didn't come with the car if I'm correct?
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RE: Ford factory special 2019/10/04 22:49:40 (permalink)
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Reeni on line, we have already been advised that our engine number is not one of the 11, is it possible that when this engine was first entered into a car, for on road use, an engine number may be different to a vin number on a car, is this correct?

Reeni/Den, when your engine CK17ME34040P was first installed in a Capri, sometime between August, 1972 and November, 1972, it was mated with the chassis number of the same code, ie. CK17ME34040P. At some point your engine has been separated from the original chassis, either because it was replaced by another engine or, the chassis was written off or wrecked.
Hope this clarifies your question. Terry

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RE: Ford factory special 2019/10/05 09:39:23 (permalink)
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2 racks came on V6 Capris Burman like you have Den and TRW rack which is not common.
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RE: Ford factory special 2020/02/04 23:36:06 (permalink)
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Hi everyone,
can anyone confirm if ALL Mk1 Capris, inc the 11 Specials, all had identical Master Cylinders ?
If so, then all fittings will be AF/Imperial, and so there should be no concern that Metric Tube Nuts had been introduced.
Most reports I've heard over the years from Mk1 Escort & Capri owners, is that "stock" brakes weren't the best even from "Day1" when everything was new ?
I'm having reservations about the Master Cylinder "DESIGN" : that crazy "poppet valve" under the reservoir that services half the car seems part of the cause of weak brakes. I will investigate closely when I get a chance to pull the Master and strip it down.
I prefer to keep the entire system "stock", so if anyone has technical knowledge on this Braking System "pitfalls" or shortcomings, I sure would appreciate it before "going in"
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RE: Ford factory special 2020/02/06 19:18:31 (permalink)
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BEE VEE
Hi everyone,
can anyone confirm if ALL Mk1 Capris, inc the 11 Specials, all had identical Master Cylinders ?

Bernie, according to the Capri Parts Catalogue, ALL Australian assembled Capri's (be they 1600's or 3-litres) shared the same Dual-Line Brake Master Cylinder, part no: 69EB 2140 CA.
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RE: Ford factory special 2020/02/06 20:05:41 (permalink)
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Terry, many thanks for your confirmation.
I can't help telling everyone that when I replaced my rear Wheel cylinders with Brand new Assemblies (as they were cheaper from UK inc post than what Brake Parts ABS wanted just for the bloody seals!), the brakes improved by at least 10%, but the HANDBRAKE "feel" and adjustability was like 150% improvement ! 
Is it true there's no exclusive difference in the fitting specs of the ESCORT Mk1 Master Cylinder that would easily accomodate our Capri Mk1's ?
 

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RE: Ford factory special 2020/02/06 20:14:26 (permalink)
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 Is the Burman and TRW Racks fully interchangeable please ?
 

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RE: Ford factory special 2020/02/06 23:10:12 (permalink)
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Terry, many thanks for your confirmation.
I can't help telling everyone that when I replaced my rear Wheel cylinders with Brand new Assemblies (as they were cheaper from UK inc post than what Brake Parts ABS wanted just for the bloody seals!), the brakes improved by at least 10%, but the HANDBRAKE "feel" and adjustability was like 150% improvement ! 
Is it true there's no exclusive difference in the fitting specs of the ESCORT Mk1 Master Cylinder that would easily accomodate our Capri Mk1's ?

The original Capri V6 rear wheel cylinders have a 0.70 inch diameter bore, whereas the 1600 models used a 0.75 inch diameter bore that, as I understand it, is the only difference in the braking system between the 4 and 6-cylinder models. As for the Escort Mk.1 Master Cylinder, I have no idea, except to say that the Mk.1 Escort was released in March, 1970, nearly a full year after the Capri was released in early May, 1969.

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