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2011/08/27 20:26:10 (permalink)
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Escort rear sway bar photos?

Would anyone have any photos of the std Mk2 Escort rear sway bar?
 
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    hak073
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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2011/08/29 11:51:40 (permalink)
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    Is this what you were after?



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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2011/08/29 12:23:34 (permalink)
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    Thanks Peter.
    I was reading a thread on turbosport the other night and a guy was talking about having anti-trap bars and a sway bar fitted to his mk2. I would of thought they'd be mutually exclusive and those photos seem to support that?

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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2011/08/29 14:07:14 (permalink)
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    You could always mount the swaybar to the rear:

    (pic off a Mk1 Lotus twincam)
     
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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2012/03/28 01:07:47 (permalink)
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    I would have thought that the rear sway bar would act like a tramp bars anyway - you have similar bushes on both, and the sway bar should be preventing the axle from 'winding up' in the same way that tramp bars do since it would not compress just as a tram bar is designed not to compress under load.. 
     
    I have a Mk2 axle on my Mk1, so I was considering using a rear sway bar instead of putting tramp bars since I want the body roll stiffened up as well as wanting to eliminate axle wind up.  My only issue is the body brackets needed to fit the sway bar to a Mk1 - if anyone has pics showing where the Mk2 rear sway bar attaches to the body in relation to the frame rails etc I would love to have a look at them.  I am wondering if the Mk1 tramp bar body brackets could be used for this purpose... Any knowledge/advice would be gratefully received.
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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2012/03/28 09:14:53 (permalink)
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    Is that rear sway bar mounted to the boot floor

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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2012/03/28 10:41:01 (permalink)
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    Yep. With blocks of wood by the look of it.

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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2012/03/28 21:48:53 (permalink)
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    MK2 utilises the muffler mounting bolt from memory, other side uses a through chassis rail tube and a 6-8" long through bolt

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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2012/03/29 08:53:50 (permalink)
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    There are many posts on the this subject about how to stop the axle hopping.
     
    It seems the Aussie way to go is to get a new set of leafs made up with a rebound leaf added and the front eye half reversed.  This coupled with good shocks (Bilstein or konis etc) will eliminate axle tramp.
     
    I don;t think the rear sway bar does much at all.  I had one in my old RS and when I took it out it was actually much better.
     
    The Poms all seem to go the anti tramp kits but these seem to be undesireable on the track.
     
    Though if it's a street driven car and you want to eliminate the axle hop then an anti tramp kit makes sense.
     
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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2012/03/29 10:45:19 (permalink)
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    The only way to stop axle tramp (which is spring windup) is with anti tramp rods.
    The Escort with the sway bar mounted to the boot floor was quite common years ago I think it was a Selby,s sway bar as was the panhard bar.
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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2012/03/29 11:51:24 (permalink)
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    From what I've read from many of the well known racers of escorts in Australia the easiest and still one of the best ways is to just have good quality shocks and good quality springs with a rebound leaf (so like what Matt75 has said).
    Mind you they partly do this due to regulations, but they prefer not to use tramp rods as it can induce spring binding on tight corners. Saying that a road car might not be as susceptible to this. Most cars in the UK tend to go straight for a 4/5 link setup, which is totally different again as it rids of the leaf springs and has complete separate locations etc
     
    Most still tend to use a watts linkage to locate the axle from side movement, but if they are not getting tramp even with wide sticky tyres and the aggressive way they drive i doubt a road going vehicle would be different?
    This way your not going to the effort or cost to fabricate anything, and you then have a good set of shocks and springs. Simple, cost effective and is proven.
     
    This is the exact setup ill be using on my Duratec Mk1. I really can't see the need for more.
    Also video of the same car below.. nice start.. no tramp..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoDLF_pc1As


     
     
     
     
    post edited by evobda2 - 2012/03/29 14:45:21
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    Re:Escort rear sway bar photos? 2012/03/29 15:48:31 (permalink)
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    I think using the reverse eye method also does not de-cambre the spring (like the traditional lowering does) which helps controlling axle tramp and spring wind-up etc.

    Cheers

    Paul
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