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2011/01/02 20:13:24
smallvan

New car laws

Has anyone heard anything about them ? mate just went to get his chopped harley passed. Nope his engineer also told him no more mag wheels no tubbed guards, he said they are outlawed so he cannot finish his FJv8.And the engineer is chucking it in when the new laws come in.
51 comments Leave a comment
martymexico
Are you joking ?
It seems this country is becoming more communist than Russia!
2011/01/02 22:37:12
Stuart
where is this rubbish coming from? We try and improve our own safety and conform to any regs that come out of F****Canberra! And this is how we are treated!
2011/02/02 08:06:30
Steviestar
It's all true, My Group A got knocked back just recently, so is now reduced to being a powercruise/trackday car only [8~2]
2011/02/02 11:39:46
Stuart
so that means all that time getting the 45's, cleaned, tuned are now just a display item? Pricks!!
2011/02/02 12:35:00
smallvan
quote:
Originally posted by Steviestar

It's all true, My Group A got knocked back just recently, so is now reduced to being a powercruise/trackday car only [8~2]

What did they get you for ????
2011/02/02 12:59:21
harrier
Is this a national or state thing ?
2011/02/02 13:59:50
Steviestar
quote:
Originally posted by smallvan

quote:
Originally posted by Steviestar

It's all true, My Group A got knocked back just recently, so is now reduced to being a powercruise/trackday car only [8~2]

What did they get you for ????


It's a twin Turbo 383 stroked Holden V8, so pretty much everything, from the aftermarket (larger) wheels, open fuel system in the boot, (i dunno either, it's a surge tank and pumps?) to the obvious engine changes
2011/02/02 15:29:35
smallvan
Some of the laws
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx
2011/02/02 16:50:25
JordyCharlieBoz
I think this one affects us, If you increase the power by 20%
"A collapsible steering column must be fitted"


...[8~2]
2011/02/02 17:21:34
INBreplica
quote:
Originally posted by JordyCharlieBoz

I think this one affects us, If you increase the power by 20%
"A collapsible steering column must be fitted"


...[8~2]

Aren't Escort steering wheel bosses collapsible?
2011/02/02 17:31:50
PeterM

"It seems this country is becoming more communist than Russia!"

Partly correct: actually "socialist Australia"; a commercial dictatorship with ever increasing loss of personal freedoms and loss of personal choice.

Modified car laws are one thing, but just try and operate a small Australian owned business and own a commercial property. With new laws almost immpossible now.
2011/02/02 18:51:11
fordsy
Check the laws applicable to whichever state your car will be registered in as they do differ depending on where you are.

The last two years of working on my project have taught me one thing about mods. Ask the engineer. Nothing else matters other than his opinion as he will sign the car off. Nothing on the internet matters, especially forum comments.
2011/02/02 20:35:29
muzza
Guys as long as you don't drive like a hoon most cops will give you a thumbs up as you drive past. Get an engineers tick if you have clear visable mods that require it, and most of the laws from the early 1900's are still in place but aren't enforced as they are not relevant so in a nutshell don't stress.
2011/02/02 21:23:07
escortinadriver
quote:
Originally posted by fordsy

Check the laws applicable to whichever state your car will be registered in as they do differ depending on where you are.

The last two years of working on my project have taught me one thing about mods. Ask the engineer. Nothing else matters other than his opinion as he will sign the car off. Nothing on the internet matters, especially forum comments.


Couldn't have said it better Steve.

Shaun
2011/03/02 09:22:41
Bloodyeck
Don't panic just yet. The Commonwealth is compelling the States and Territories to standardize their modification rules. They have just done the same thing in relation to registration of vehicles over 4.5 tonnes.

One Stete will develop the model rules and the others will adopt them. Once enacted by all jurisdictions if your cars modifications have not been approved, you won't get it registered until they are. If you buy a modified vehicle from another jurisdiction and the modifications have not been approved by the registering authority in the State of origin, your home State or Territory will not register it. So, when all this comes into force, don't buy a modified vehicle unless the seller can prove to you that the modifications have been approved. If they have, the vehicle will be accepted for registration elsewhere.
2011/03/02 12:40:43
grant
quote:
Originally posted by INBreplica

quote:
Originally posted by JordyCharlieBoz

I think this one affects us, If you increase the power by 20%
"A collapsible steering column must be fitted"


...[8~2]

Aren't Escort steering wheel bosses collapsible?


No i can tell you first hand your teeth collapse before the wheel [B)]
2011/03/02 16:46:37
Bloodyeck
On 1 January 2011, the Department of Infrastructure and Transport (Commonwealth) issued Vehicle Standards Bulletin 14 (VSB14) It is a "national code of practice for light vehicle construction and modification and was prepared by members of the Australian Motor Vehicle Certification Board Working Party allegedly in consultation with industry, user groups, government agencies and individuals with an interest in modifying light vehicles and/or building individually constructed light vehicles". The document is in a state of flux and will be revised an updated as required. It is available for download in PDF format. It is huge. http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx

I recommend you read it because it is going to be adopted across the nation.

I have been advised that in the NT modified vehicles bought interstate which have not had modifications approved will not be registered in the NT. If the modifications have been approved, then there will be no trouble. If you want to keep the car you'll have to apply to your registering State or Territory for approval of the modifications.That may be the case elsewhere. So, buyer beware.
2011/03/02 17:21:12
Wattsy
As some of you may know I have been pouring money into my Capri so the new code of practice is a pretty scary thing for me as my vehicle wont comply. After some research and further time on the phone with my engineer, Athol Mullens in Cardiff, Newcastle, who was present at the meeting yesterday with the NSW RTA committee:

VSB14 is NOT accepted in NSW. NSW RTA is currently preparing a draft adaptation of VSB14 which will most likely contain elements of VSI 50 (the ride height one) in it.

The exact changes from the proposed national Code are unclear and will remain so for approximately a month at which stage they hope to have the new draft released for reveiew and public comment. Following the draft being modified and then accepted the RTA have stated they intend to have a 6 month grace period where an engineer will be able to certify vehicles under either scheme. Following this period it's the new code of practice nor NSW.. which the public have yet to see.

All I can say is if you have been knocked back by an engineer under the new rules then find a new engineer who is up on current events and read the direction sent from the RTA. If you are modifying a car atm then pull your finger out and get it certified prior to the new rules being adopted (6 months at least).

This details are what my engineer has told me. Feel free to do your own ACTUAL research or I suggest you engage an engineer on your project and not just take it as gospel what you find on the internetz.

It's pretty scary stuff and potentially very expensive depending on these law changes coming in. Feel free to write to the NSW Roads Minister and tell him how much harm you think these laws will do to your business or hobby. Sure can't hurt.
2011/03/02 17:36:05
TEX
Talking to an Engineer today he said he was in a meeting all days about this trollop, he suggested we go and get on board this petition to show our strength.
http://nothoons.myelectorate.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39&Itemid=126
2011/03/02 20:41:28
muzza
I've posted this link on my facebook page and asked others to share it also!
2011/03/02 20:57:22
fehlbie
Is there a petition against the rest of this crap that they are trying to implement? Not just the raising or lowering of a vehicle by 50mm.
2011/04/02 09:26:54
shannon
maybe some people on here can suggest a good and honest engineer that will not take you for a ride ($$$$) as i have just been told by an engineer whom doesnt really care and is getting out of the game soon

pretty much i have fitted a 2l escort motor efi/turbo and 5 speed into a mk1 cortina with dual brake circuits and volvo brake upgrade have been quoted a minimum of 3.5k

the last engineer i used (approx 6 years ago) was very honest and down to earth,the car i had then had extensive chassis mods,brake and driveline upgades and was passed without a problem after all required tests ans was about $550 then,i have since tried to ontact him again finding out today that he had passed on about 2 years ago

i think its a rip off and considering selling the car for that kind of dollars to pass a basic engine/box and brake upgrade

so if anyone in Sydney can suggest an engineer in Sydney that would be great
2011/04/02 15:53:44
smallvan
Ring around the 4wd stores, as they are always using them for body lifts/suspension mods ect.
2011/04/02 16:55:32
TEX
I think supporting this petition will send a good message to the current dirtbag pollies. The Engineer I spoke to seemed pretty good and I've heard decent things about him on other forums. They are all going to be thorough cause its their lively hood on the line and generally people who approach engineers are trying to do the right thing. Quoted about 1500 for the 'process', even said he'd come out for an inspection of course the fee increased but heseemed straight up. I wont name him until after I have a good experience through the process of modding my car.
2011/04/02 17:30:29
Scott
quote:
Originally posted by martymexico

Are you joking ?
It seems this country is becoming more communist than Russia!


I was thinking of Switzerland[xx(]
2011/07/02 00:24:22
smallvan
This from Athol

Now is the time for every person out there to contact their local state MP and the roads minister calling for both VSCCS and VSB14 adoption to be delayed for at least 6 months to allow problems to be resolved. If things go as the RTA have proposed, I fear that vehicle certification in NSW will implode. Nothing will be able to be done, and the government will be very embarrassed.
2011/09/14 18:42:16
Phil
Im meeting with our local MP on Friday re this issue. After speaking with an engineering signatory recently it became obvious there are some serious floors in the proposed process. We will be drafting a letter to the Minister for Transport asking him not to sign off on the VSCCS.
 
One of the biggest issues is that the RTA are expecting applicants(engineering signatories) to sign a contract that is not avalable for review prior to signing, not to mention agree to abide by a set of rules that are also not available for review before signing the contract.
 
It appears that the RTA are trying to keep the new rules and conditions a secret until they are signed off by the Minister for Transport....once this happens we are stuck with the rules, very underhanded if you ask me.
2011/09/14 21:08:23
laurie
Engineer reports are not worth the paper they are written on. As a member of the local Highway Patrol, we are obliged to work in conjunction with RTA inspectors doing operations where modified vehicles are taken to "checking stations". Any suspension mod for motor sport applications gets defected as a car now fitted with 4 links ladder bars etc when it came out with leaf spings, is not considered safe for road usage.
People will argue that these mods are safer 'at speed' well has anyone checked out the speed limits on the roads lately???
Multi carb engines are fine as long as they have an airbox fitted and comply with emissions. Oh and did I mention charcoal canisters.
Sadly it will end up where people will be driving boring cars on the road and have their track day cars with mods in the garage. Saves me writing tickets and defect notices.
2011/09/15 18:57:56
Mk1 Lotus
How many of the accidents that you attend involve adjustable suspension multi carb 4 link cars?
2011/09/16 05:55:07
hak073
I'm sorry, but I just don't see how a 30 year old leaf spring rear end can be better or "safer" than a proper 4-linked axle.
2011/09/16 09:30:23
laurie
Only 1 in Windsor. But I have seen plenty booked for speed and burnouts. When they start putting 4 link rear ends in mass produced family cars I will believe you Hak 
2011/09/16 12:20:14
JamesR
whooligan

Unfortunately, this is the sign of the times.....all I can say is buy yourself a push bike, become a tea-totalling, vegetarian, non-smoking, anti-drug taking, "working family" man and life will become rosy again......ummm, sounds like a certain "land of the free" about 200 years ago, and we all know how that place ended up....flat broke and sheite scared!

oi!
i ride a bike, dont drink/smoke/take drugs, but do eat meat. what of it?
 

2011/09/16 12:37:14
Mk1 Lotus
laurie

Only 1 in Windsor. But I have seen plenty booked for speed and burnouts. When they start putting 4 link rear ends in mass produced family cars I will believe you Hak 

 
Laurie I understand you are working to set of rules/laws and am not trying make light of this issue, however your arguement holds no water at all. 4, 5 and 6 link rear ends have been in family passenger cars since the 70's and it's only in recent times with IRS coming along that these set ups are fading out. 
I don't know how much more family you can be than the trusty Ford Falcon but in the image (Whiteline) you see a Falcon 6 link rear end.
2011/09/16 14:57:14
laurie
Touche  like a rusty ol bucket.But the issue lies in the modification of pre existing suspension components in older cars/ one offs and hot rods. You must admit people only modify their suspension to 4-6 link to perform comparable to their engine mods. Nobody is going to six link their side valve Anglia (example only) for safety reasons? 
2011/09/16 16:11:56
Mk1 Lotus
No They probably won't.
 
But this comes back to my earlier question regarding accidents you've attended, as a percentage of accidents you see modified cars would be involved in how many? 1%? 10%?
It couldn't possible be a high percentage so why not spend the time and money on driver training so the idiot in what ever unmodified car doesn't clean up the famliy in the what ever wagon?
 
As far as the burn outs, street racing etc the stance is clear so if you get caught tuff. But this is a massive over reaction to a problem that bearly exists, if your talking road safety.  
2011/09/16 17:46:55
esc-078
Mk1 Lotus

No They probably won't.

But this comes back to my earlier question regarding accidents you've attended, as a percentage of accidents you see modified cars would be involved in how many? 1%? 10%?
It couldn't possible be a high percentage so why not spend the time and money on driver training so the idiot in what ever unmodified car doesn't clean up the famliy in the what ever wagon?

As far as the burn outs, street racing etc the stance is clear so if you get caught tuff. But this is a massive over reaction to a problem that bearly exists, if your talking road safety.  
Well said and agree 100%.
2011/09/16 18:12:10
fehlbie
laurie

Only 1 in Windsor. But I have seen plenty booked for speed and burnouts. When they start putting 4 link rear ends in mass produced family cars I will believe you Hak 

 
I don't know where this prejudice comes from within the highway patrol and the Rta. That us car enthusiasts that modify our cars to improve them to make them stop, handle and make these old cars safer, makes us hoons and we are apparently a danger to the public. It is another case of a over reaction to a minority within the car enthusiast community that we are all going to suffer. I for one have been driving for 17 years, have had one at fault accident and have never been fined for anything other than a couple of parking fines (touch wood). I find it frustrating, that I am being victimized by the government, because I enjoy my cars and like to improve them. I consider myself to be a safe driver and have completed advanced driver training at my own cost. I think my driving record exemplifies why we need better driver training in this state not more silly laws, that are not going to achieve anything road safety wise, except hinder a mutli-million dollar industry. What the Rta and the highway patrol should be focusing on is driver eduction (advanced driving courses) and a retraining of driver attitude. If they focus on these points, our roads will become safer.
2011/09/16 18:23:14
hak073
Well said fehlbie.
My thoughts exactly, but you put the words together better than I could.
2011/09/16 21:26:08
PeterM
 
I for one will be more than willing to defend any claim made by the RTA, or any highway patrol officer, against my modified vehicle that that has been properly prepared and certified by a professional RTA certified engineer.
 
A professional written engineering certification will over rule any claim made by a highway patrol officer that it can be assumed has little or no professional knowledge in engineering, but has only one interest in mind, and that is to provide a revenue stream to the debt ridden NSW State Government. 
 
2011/09/16 21:37:54
Phil
Were probably a tad out of touch with the real issue that faces the modified car scene at present with the proposed and almost legislated changes to the rules for modified cars.
 
The real point of concern is that the new system will see almost anyone within the trade able to obtain a qualification to pass modifications on light vehicles...that is anyone who can afford a $2800pa mandatory insurance premium, $25000 personal indemnity excess and a $10000 joint liability excess...not to mention a scheme exit cost of 7 years worth of premiums, all payable on exit.
 
This is a double whammy for the current signatory group as they must still hold the same insurance seperately for their private/non registered vehicle engineering work. Insurances they privately hold cover the same things that the mandatory RTA insurance covers with nowhere near the excess or other running cost liabilities. Effectively the RTA are forcing new scheme participants to pay twice for insurance.
 
I currently hold sufficient qualification to apply and be accepted a cert IV trade certificate...not to mention many many shady characters with almost limitless supplies of cash that hold the same qualification. We are faced with a situation where any shady character with cash and a cert IV can enter the program....no uni degree in engineering required. If I was to be selfish...this could be a great thing, but in reality it will result in the biggest level of risk we have ever seen(post signatory scheme introduction)as the new scheme is dollar driven with little regard for safety.
 
After all this...the rules for modifications wont be changing very much...but the people that will be able to sign off the mods will be changing.
 
Most of the current highly qualified signatories cant afford to enter the program. The cost of an engineers report will likely head into the $2000+ range....out of most enthusiasts range of justification.
 
All this is due to come into effect on the 1st of October...very cunningly delivered by the RTA under covert conditions.
 
The best thing that could happen is the scheme be suspended pending a thorough investigation by industry professionals...and qualified professionals at that.
 
If the new system gets in we are screwed...not by restrictions on mods but by the costs we will incur.... and the dangerous cars that cashed up shady characters can afford to have passed by their cashed up shady mates with authorisation to pass their cars.
 
The RTA are no longer providing a service....they are a business that is hungry to generate income...the personalised and custom number plate system is proof of this, not to mention what we are now looking at with the new modified vehicle scheme.
 
Laurie, the new scheme will be your worst nightmare if the current one gives you headaches
 
Cheers,
Phil.
2011/09/16 22:05:51
Phil
And just to wiegh in on the previous debate...its the nut behind the wheel that is the issue, not the nut that holds the wheel on. If my car crashes...rest assured it will be by my mistake, not its spec or the way it is built....
2011/09/16 22:12:13
laurie
I agree Phil and Fehlbie and Peter(and whoever else) but it is the element of car builders/modifiers that over power vehicles that came out with asthmatic engines and replace them with blown/ turbo V8's etc. This is the element the "revenue raisers" complainants should be targeting with their barbs. I am just one of the people that have to "Police" these regulations.(Plus I am one of the Highway Patrol that know what I am looking at Peter) Please remember I own a modified vehicle built to an engineers certificate. I also know that people Engineer shop to get certain improvements past the keeper so to speak. People modify their Older cars to go faster,stop and handle while driving that vehicle faster be it on the track or a blast up the old road.(Yes Fehlbie I have been on club runs 'nuff said) People who think that these mods are to run down to the corner shop for a bottle of milk or church on Sunday are dreaming.  
2011/09/19 16:33:59
3LMK1Project
Any news on this one Phil?
2011/09/27 16:58:56
3LMK1Project
Any news on this one Phil?
2011/09/27 17:03:00
Phil
3LMK1Project

Any news on this one Phil?

 
At the moment we are awaiting a reply from the Minister for Transport. Our local member sent in my letter with his correspondance asking that the VSCCS scheme be suspended pending review by qualified stakeholders. Apparently the minister has 35 days to reply, and is compelled to reply as the letter was sent on official government letterhead. We should hear back within the next 4 weeks.
 
Cheers,
Phil.

2011/09/28 19:33:02
PeterM
Insider information (from reliable informed industry sources) is that the proposed NSW laws are being driven by at least two powerful people:
- one guy is an ex police big chief,
- the other is an ex WorkCover big chief.
 
The mentality is (quote) "why do you need to modify cars anyway".
The mentality is that it will be too difficult/impossible and unpalatable for owners to own modified vehicles and drive on the road, and/or making RTA certifiers do their job properly by the amount of accountabilty they will inherit via enormous liabilities. 
 
I understand any modification will be criticised. This includes details down to not being able to increase the rolling diameter of tyres no more than 15% from factory standard.
Many existing vehicles will have extreme difficulties in being registered.
 
I understand even now, many owners with vehicles that carry proper NSW RTA certification/s as modified vehicles are receiving letters from the RTA demanding that the vehicle and the owner attend  RTA checking stations for inspections. On arrival for inspection the car is taken into the closed RTA workshop while the owner is told to wait outside while the inspection takes place. Should any defects be found the plates are removed, a list made up and the owner is instructed to remove the vehicle until resolved.
 
The only way to try to stop this happening is for every one to hammer the minister day and night.
 
Don't forget should the new laws be implemented several entire industries (accessories, body builders, spare parts etc etc) will immediately collapse.

Makes the Nazi Party and Uncle Adolph look like a bunch of party goers....
 
 

 
 
2011/09/28 21:05:14
fehlbie
I think this is who everyone needs to contact.
Hon. Gladys BEREJIKLIAN, BA, DIntS, MCom MP And her email address is office@berejiklian.minister.nsw.gov.au
 
2011/09/29 18:16:20
fehlbie
Nothing like living in a nanny state. I have to say that I am very sick and tired of new laws infringing on my civil liberties. It really has gotten out of control, I don't know where this mentality has come from, but we have gone from a nation of people who used to say she'll be right mate, to a nation that says no you can't do that. We have to go out on a witch hunt and punish everyone for the mistakes and stupidity of a few. There are even current laws in place that deem my part of being in a group/club/gathering (eg car forum) as illegal behaviour and could potentially be prosecuted. I personally would like this stupid crap to stop, but while we are overrun by all the nanny's out there, I don't see any end in sight.
2011/09/29 18:29:10
PeterM
 
The sad fact is that our civil liberties are slowly being eroded away every day.
The sad fact is that a few powerful untouchable (and behind closed doors) people are reducing the ability for us to make informed choices for ourselves.
The proposed new laws for modified motor vehicles are only a tiny part of the bigger picture that I do not like.
 
  
2011/09/29 21:11:59
Phil
To date I havent heard anything about the rules changing other than rumours...there isnt anything under the new scheme that indicates a new set of modofication guidelines are to be delivered. Currently it is all about opening the scheme up to cashed up under qualified people and moving a major component of liability from the RTA to the signatories.
2011/10/01 20:00:18
smallvan
...................................................................................................................................................

Some info here....things are not as bad as they seem....

ACMC Newsletters
Below is a current newsletter:

Australian Confederation Of Motor Clubs Inc meets
with RTA to discuss the new Vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Scheme.

The ACMC Inc and the NSW Roads and Traffic Authority met on Friday 1st September 2011 to discuss the introduction of the new Vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Scheme.

The Vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Scheme (the new scheme) will license people to inspect non-standard vehicles and certify compliance with applicable vehicle safety standards. The VSCCS replaces the Engineering Certification Scheme (the old scheme).

At the meeting the ACMC Inc and the RTA discussed how the new scheme will work and what it will mean for motoring enthusiasts.

The ACMC Inc and RTA also expressed a common concern that there is some inaccurate information currently circulating about what the VSCCS is, and how it will affect motoring enthusiasts.

With this in mind, the ACMC Inc and the RTA have agreed to work closely together to ensure that motoring enthusiasts are provided with up to date and accurate information.

Both the ACMC Inc and RTA found the meeting extremely helpful in better understanding one another’s views and objectives and have agreed to continue consultation going forward with the next step being the VSB14 (Vehicle Standards).

“I welcome the opportunity to meet with the ACMC Inc and hear their views” said Daren McDonald, the RTA’s Manager of Regulatory Strategy.

“The opportunity to work with the ACMC Inc as we move closer to starting the VSCCS is invaluable in ensuring the new scheme meets the needs of the public and motoring enthusiast movement” he added.

“The ACMC Inc are very pleased to be invited to the table by the RTA Regulatory Strategy Team to discuss these very important issues and to be able to ensure we can approach the RTA with other items going forward, this is real grassroots progress” said the president of the ACMC Inc Mr Tony O'Donnell.

Set out below are some of the key questions the ACMC Inc have asked the RTA about the new scheme and their answers to those questions.

Written by the - Regulatory Strategy & Reform Regulatory Services Directorate - Roads & Traffic Authority

“What is the new VSCCS?”
The VSCCS is a new scheme that the RTA will introduce soon. Under the scheme the RTA will licence people to inspect individually constructed vehicles, individually imported vehicles, or vehicles subject to significant modification to ensure they are safe and comply with applicable vehicle standards. In this respect the purpose of the VSCCS is the same as the old scheme (the ECS).

So why is the VSCCS being introduced ?
The VSCCS will enable the RTA to provide a better service for motorists.
The VSCCS will introduce:
» More certifiers across NSW. This means customers will have broader choice in selecting a service provider. More competition will better ensure customers receive value for money when they engage a service provider.
» Improved standards of competency held by RTA certifiers. This means that customers can be assured that that their vehicle is being inspected by a person who has the appropriate qualifications, skills and experience to do the job.
» Safer vehicles. The VSCCS will result in motoring enthusiasts, the government and other road users being able to have greater confidence that certified vehicles are safe and conform with applicable vehicle standards. The VSCCS will also ensure that there is clearer information available to enthusiasts about the steps they need to take to get their vehicle certified, and when they do and don’t need to obtain certification.
» Greater protection for customers. The VSCCS will mean that customers can rest assured that whichever certifiers they hire, that person is backed by professional indemnity and public liability insurances and with appropriate levels of coverage.
» A person you can trust. Persons wishing to become a licensed certifier will be subject to rigorous background checks by the RTA and regular auditing to ensure that the highest standards of professional service and ethical practice are being provided to the public.
» A simpler process. The VSCCS will remove two steps which will save time for the customer and provide greater convenience. When a customer gets their VSCCS certificate they will no longer be required to present it to a motor registry. They will also no longer need to also have a registered modified vehicle inspected by an Authorised Unregistered Vehicle Inspection Station.

Questions from the ACMC Inc committee to the - Regulatory Strategy & Reform Regulatory Services Directorate - Roads & Traffic Authority

Q - “Does the new VSCCS introduce any changes to vehicle standards?”
A - “No, vehicle standards do not change as a result of the introduction of the VSCCS”.

Q - “When do Motorists need to get a modified vehicle certified?”
A - The vehicle registration regulations and the NSW Code of Practice for Light Vehicles and other RTA published documents set out when a vehicle requires a certificate of compliance. The RTA will publish guidelines to explain to customers when you need to obtain a certificate. The VSCCS does not change the ground rules about when someone needs to get their vehicle certified. But the guidelines need to be updated to take into account changes in vehicle technology over recent years. What the VSCCS does is improve the certification process itself. The ACMC Inc and the RTA will release further information about the new guidelines soon.

Q - “Can the RTA give an indication of whether they will give the ECS signatories who may not have a Cert 4 qualification time to obtain this qualification leading into their VSCCS induction?”
A - ECS signatories who have lodged an expression of interest to join VSCCS and satisfy scheme eligibility criteria but who do not hold the minimum qualifications required by the VSCCS will be able to obtain a VSCCS licence on condition that they get Recognition of Prior Learning through a registered training provider. Providers such as the Motor Traders Association and TAFE are presently assisting ECS signatories in this regard.

Q - “Will the customer need to present a certificate to an RTA motor registry?”
A - Currently under the ECS a customer must attend an RTA motor registry after obtaining a certificate. Under the ECS customers must also present the vehicle to an Authorised Inspection Station*. These steps will no longer be required under the VSCCS. Once a customer obtains a certificate from a VSCCS licensed certifier there is nothing more they need to do.
*Where the customer’s vehicle is unregistered, the standard RTA registration requirements will still apply. An inspection report from an Authorised Unregistered Vehicle Inspection Station will be required.

Q - “If a modified vehicle already has an ECS certificate then what happens?”
A - If a vehicle owner has presented their certificate to an RTA motor registry there is nothing they need to do. Their certificate will continue to be recognised by the RTA. If they have not previously presented their certificate to the RTA motor registry then they must do so within six months of the VSCCS commencing. If they do not do this within six months, they will need to obtain a new VSCCS certificate.

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