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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/08/18 12:54:13 (permalink)
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Gday stranger, nice to see you back.
I hope you've slung a towbar on the back there, then you can whip down the river and chuck in a quick rally stage between runs. Although big block is goign to make her a wake boat :)
 
Fancy an expenses paid trip to sunny Geelong to do some spraying? 
Marty dragged me into the ITB caper, after buying a full set of Honda ITBs as pictured earlier. My set cost under $100 shipped. Then the plan was to buy an inlet from the UK or 3D print as we are doing.
Speeduino came up while learnign the other bits needed, and what I liked was its open source, and support is much more readily and freely available. There is a bit of a learnign curve, but with our case using Pintos', its pretty basic setup and peeps have done it before.
 
Plus, the head speeduino dude is just in Ballarat, which is good to 'buy local'.
So far, the Speeduino itself cost me around $150, but it should have been less cause I buggered up on the componets to buy, and needed a second order.Plus I changed the format of the case to make hooking up easier.
Check out 'Making for Motorsport" on YT if you havent already, David does a pretty good intro, and also prints his own manifold. What engine are you planning? Theres a high chance Speediuno will cope with it, and theres likely to be a base tune available as well.
 
I can just about use a timing light, thats the extent of my tuning knowledge, but we'll give it a crack, and see how far we get. Can always ask for help on the SP forums.... (or go back to the 32/36)
 
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/08/18 13:09:40 (permalink)
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An anonymous Santa from SA has delivered a select box of engine goodies!
A pair of engine mounts, standard  distributor and coil, breather cap plus a brand new  oil catch can are all exactly whats needed, many thanks.
Not sure if i'm 'Sorted" yet, but surely a step closer, and the other 
The fuel filler cut may go onto the wall of fame, although there has been a precedence set for swapping body panels into each of our builds. Happy days!
 
 
 
 

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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/08/18 13:18:58 (permalink)
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so long as the forum doesnt meltdown from the sudden flurry..
 
Mark if you want to join us in the Speeduino sandpit and play around with the soldering iron at the same time, send me your address.
I have a previous model 4.3 board and some componets you can solder in (was pictured earlier on in the thread), not much of a challenge but gives you an idea if making a board yourself is the go or not. You can buy them completed of course, or in various bundles with the Arduino:
https://sparkefi.net/ is a cheap supplier, even free post to Aus. Just takes a while to get here.
 

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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/08/18 17:12:11 (permalink)
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Glad your present arrived today, gives you some time to get them ready to install before you head to Bendo .
I was thinking the fuel filler piece could go in place of the van one as caps are more available for sedans , should've sent the inner screw in bit too to complete the set!

Mark, welcome home lol , yeah us on here, deano and myself are speeduino-ing our projects.... I'm even going to get one for my mk1 Focus at some point soon along with my many other cars and Ute so they are very adaptable to any car/boat/ motor combo .
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/08/18 20:02:45 (permalink)
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Speeduino controlled small block speedboat.
It does support launch control!,
 
Imagine the look on the skiers face, being launched into outerspace, classic.
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/08/21 08:46:11 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info Deano, and Hi back to you Marty.
Yes I will investigate the Speeduino starting with the link you sent.
I really want to investigate how these things work to see how it may be integrated. Suppose compare it to the features on the Link and if its doable. Like you Deano these things are a bit like smoke and mirrors to me.
On the boat, going with fairly standard msd with 6AL ignition control, as the (learning a few things here) tunnel ram restricts distributor access. So like most things as we know these things have a flow on effect.
 
I used to make printed circuits. Used to buy the board, it had a solid coating of copper on one side, then you drill for components (resistors etc) and then paint with an acid proof compound where you wanted the copper to remain to allow continuity between aforesaid components and then paint it with some acid which etched all the unwanted copper layer off.
Get back to you when I've had a look.
I'll send you through my details Deano.
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/08/21 10:59:32 (permalink)
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My bro used to do the circuit board etching in the 90s , 1 good thing is he brought home some real flat and stuff boards which didn't make the grade. I remember using 1 decent size to make a chassis for my competition RC buggy, it was bare without copper. The chassis plate made my buggy underweight by a 20c piece, this was in the early 90s and the buggy got me to state champ qualify in 2wd modifieds , came 3rd outright. The board never broke even with some monstrous crashes it went thru, even a small fire in the track lol... Good old days
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/10/05 13:14:12 (permalink)
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I haven't forgotten Mark about sending some stuff across.
The  guy I have been buying Speeduinoi stuff from online in Turkey hasn't been that reliable, I know who would have thought , right?
 
I finally tracked down a sump from WA for the vans pinto , so that can go on. Its just about ready to try to start on the stand, then well see whats next. A new clutch is on order, and new ARP flywheel bolts are here. That will go off for a skim and a bit of weightloss.
 
The rally pack replica thats for sale needed the charchoal canister sorted, so after doing that I gave it another wash again and back into the shed .
Must be something up with the paintwork though,  the water went all bubbly afterwards! 
 

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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/10/05 14:48:24 (permalink)
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Definitely like to see the water pilling of like that.
Don't stress about the Speeduino stuff Deano, I have to contact the tuner I was mentioning to see how his first foray into Speeduino is progressing.
Only realised you were in Vic the other day. I just took the boat to Bendigo, then we went down to Queenscliff across to Sorento and around the coast back to sunny Greenwell Point. It was a good excuse to catch up with some friends scattered around Vic and travel 2200km in 6 days.
Will be coming back down before Christmas to pick it up.
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/10/05 16:21:58 (permalink)
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bugger.
you'll have to drop by then for sure when you pick it up.
Maybe dip it in the Barwon or on the bay for a quick thrash at the same time.!
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/10/16 13:18:06 (permalink)
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finally a little progress with the van.
It now has a running pinto of sorts, after some time yesterday.
I made a few rookie mistakes, but all in all, a good day. The timing was roughly set, had, spark, fuel in the carb bowls, it would turn over nice but not really fire. Of course I had left the vaccum hose from the inlet for the brake booster unplugged, so it had no vacuum.
Plug it up, and jumped 3 feet when it firsed on the next hotwire.
Sounded pretty fruity too with no exhaust.

 The new clutch has arrived, so time to get the flywheel off and machined.
I also finally found an Escort sump to go on later., so that got a clean up as well.

 
 
 


 
tidy enough to see any oil leaks in the future.
Once I can clear some shed space clear, the body will go back on the spit, to finish off underneath, check the gearbox mount points, and general tidyoff and do the guard bottoms, and bottom paint.
Then when the time comes, I'm thinking it might be easiest to take the struts and crossmember off, and lower the car over the complete engine/gearbox/suspension combo...?

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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/10/16 13:35:35 (permalink)
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Nice your back from hibernation!
It's interesting to get a motor alive on a stand. I used to have a trolley with a muffler setup and working dash and radiator from a 77 Corolla haha.
Not sure about lowering the car over the engine, box etc, unless you got a hoist..
what you could do is put the tank in first with rear springs and the front struts/xmember while it's on the rotisserie so when it's lowered down you can place it on ramps or stands.
I had all the suspension bolted up on my panelvan before lowering it to earth.
I'll be posting some of my shed life tonite, you'll like what I did..
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/10/16 16:16:22 (permalink)
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hmm, maybe I rotisserie it over.
I could do the whole drivetrain!
Diff, rear springs, tailshaft,gearbox, engine and struts.
Just roll the whole thing alongside, and rotate the body back aroud ontop!
 
No wait, that wont work, what was I thinking.
My rotissorie is old school and does not  have a 4 pot Brembo and vented disk fitted to it. :)
Looking forward to shed pics.
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/10/19 13:27:48 (permalink)
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I tried to lower the escort onto the motor and box, since I fitted up the chassis mounts.
Sounds practical but give it a try and see what gets in the way
 
Rotisserie wise, I know Deano mine only has old school drum brake and aren't we jealous!
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Re: Another Escort Van Project: 77 Mk2 2023/12/04 10:57:15 (permalink)
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some minor progress, after the boat got in the way.
1 month to scrape/antifoul/paint, but its done now.
 
Anyhow, the sump is now on, with matching pickup.
Hopefully the sump gasket had enough sealant in the right spots to behave.
 
The engine stand got an update as well,  no more hotwiring!. A Luxury keystart, will make it easier if the Speeduino stuff gets doen out of the car. Might even hook the guages up oneday
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Someone online has fed me links for stainless exhaust bits through ebay, so I've ordered a TIG torch for the Lincoln welder, may as well learn to tig as well. After christmas I reckon.
 
If anyone is after welding stuff, Marty put me onto Hampdon welding and gas supplies www.hamdon.com.au in WA.
Absolutely great service, prices, and order of Tig rods, tips and bits  arrived next day.
 
And while its not a map of Aus, WTF is this I found yesterday on the block?
Cold day in the workshop many moons ago, engine reco'rs code for something?

 
 

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