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2019/10/15 12:08:50 (permalink)
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Help with its age please,

Fomoco silentbloc sm3004 , could this be any of the earlier BS engines and componits
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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/15 13:53:41 (permalink)
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    Fomoco silentbloc sm3004 , could this be any of the earlier BS engines and componits

    Please explain? BS? Now you're getting me confused with unknown parts photographs and abbreviations!

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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/15 15:23:35 (permalink)
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    Den your looking at part numbers of which Aus Capri used mostly 69 as the start number or 70 as the start number which refers to Capri not the year 1969 or 1970. Your motor is an oval port motor. Made in or sold in or out in a car at or after August 1972. The motor shouldn't be in a 1971 V6 Capri unless someone other than Ford put it in there.
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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/15 15:35:54 (permalink)
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    I think by "BS", he might mean Bib Stillwell ????
     

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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/16 10:29:34 (permalink)
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    With regard to the BSS (Bib Stillwell Special) cars, there were 4 of the 11 'D' port specials sold by Bib Stillwell Motors here in Melbourne. Bib Stillwell also badged Escorts, Cortinas, Capris and Falcons with these 'Customised BSS Ford' boot badges. I seriously doubt that any of these Fords, including the 4 'D' port Capris had any 'extra' go faster bits or anything else to be honest, except for the usual Ford accessory offerings of the day! Stillwells would certainly not have changed anything on the 'D' port engines or any other Capri engines that Stillwells would have sold through the Capri era from 1970 to 1972/3.

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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/16 11:39:23 (permalink)
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    Den your looking at part numbers of which Aus Capri used mostly 69 as the start number or 70 as the start number which refers to Capri not the year 1969 or 1970.

    I beg to differ on this comment as, if you look through the Capri parts catalogue, you'll find that the 69 and 70 numbers used do actually refer to the year that the specific part was introduced into the Capri range. Not all parts use these 69 or 70 numbers in them, mainly engine, trans and diff, but those that do refer to the original 69 Capri specific parts, ie. those parts not used on other Fords of the era, and the 70 is used on specific Capri parts used in the GT/V6 model. Terry

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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/16 15:34:28 (permalink)
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    So what are you sugesting, like so many others out there change number to suit the body of the car.??? I'm more interested in its history, not to make out its fully original.
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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/16 17:34:01 (permalink)
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    From what I know 69 part numbers were general Capri. 70 part numbers were more a GT reference to V6. Has nothing to do with year made and no 71 or 72 year change on parts. The front struts for instance have the same lower legs on all Capris from 69 to 72 but the casting number didn't change from the first till last.
    Part numbers have nothing to do with age.
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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/16 18:14:43 (permalink)
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    Or to put it plainly the majority of Capri parts were the same in all our Mk1 Capris and a 72 would have the same part number if 4cyl or V6 if the part didn't change. The confusion can be the 69 model was completely different in many ways to 70 and 71 Capris. I don't think any manuals were changed for the 72 model which was different again. Still I don't think 69 or 70 or 71 has anything to do with year but coincidence on the Ford part numbers. Only my opinion.
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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/16 22:41:44 (permalink)
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    Part numbers of mechanical parts wont tell you anything.  70, 71 and 72 models had subtle differences such as bonnet bulge rear shape, bonnet pin type and locations, door mirrors, chassis number locations, sun visors, and rear view mirrors.  Photos of the car will tell more than part numbers.  You have a replacement engine most likely because the original was exchanged or blew up.  To know what else has been changed you can refer to sales brochures on the forum and see what does or does not match its year.  And of course you need to match the chassis stamps to the compliance plate. 
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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/16 22:44:33 (permalink)
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    From what I know 69 part numbers were general Capri. 70 part numbers were more a GT reference to V6. Has nothing to do with year made and no 71 or 72 year change on parts. The front struts for instance have the same lower legs on all Capris from 69 to 72 but the casting number didn't change from the first till last.
    Part numbers have nothing to do with age.

    69 parts were the original 1969 parts, agreed. 70 part numbers were those used specifically for the GT/V6 from Jan, 1970 when assembly commenced. Therefore, it has everything to do with when the parts were available for the particular model. The struts used are the same on all Capris agreed and the part number didn't change because it wasn't improved or upgraded. These 69, 70 etc. have everything to do with the year when the part was first used.
     
    A further example is that I sourced a 2V head for my imported Mercury Capri 200cid. I found that there were 2 types of Australian built inlet manifolds, one cast in 1972 and one in 1974 with slight improvements and they had part numbers including 72DA and 74DA. So, you see that's what Ford did, it used the year to show when the part was first introduced!

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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/17 01:45:26 (permalink)
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    The keywords there are first introduced.  So a part like a control arm with a 69 part number in a 71 capri means nothing about the age or originality of the car.
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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/17 08:45:00 (permalink)
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    Meaning a 69 part number could have been made in 72. No reference to identify when the part was made. A 69 part number on a 72 Capri could be 3 years old or 3 weeks old only Ford would know that.
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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/27 07:06:16 (permalink)
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    I'm more interested in knowing about sm3004, is this number part of or is the shell number?

    Where are the SM3004 number located and on which part or location? It's definitely not a shell number as that's your chassis number CK17*******P (I forget the rest of your number), etc. Are there any other numbers or letters with this SM3004 number?

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    Re: Help with its age please, 2019/10/28 11:09:43 (permalink)
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    Den
    I don't dought any of what's being said. I'm taking notice. Yet I have found bss 1004, located on car part. Bss for instance is it comenly used other than bss car?

    Den, you can't just keep putting up mysterious numbers from unknown parts! IF, you really want help then you must take photo's and post them along with your relevant question about that particular part, with the numbers, like BSS 1004 or SM2004, etc. If you don't do this then we really can't help you.

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