FoxyCapri
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/06 15:44:59
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Keith, your CK17ME34053 is definitely NOT the 'Special' CK17ME33054, with the numbers mixed up. The reason being, your SIDO is 804746, according to your Ford paperwork and the 'Special' 33054 has a SIDO of 511823, according to the original 1973 Ford 'technical bulletin' paperwork. Furthermore, according to the original 1973 Ford paperwork, 'A total of eleven (11) Capri units have been built with the up-rated V6 manual engine and associated components, and do not carry ID plates making special reference to this fact.'
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/06 16:50:04
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Thanks Terry, I know CK18KM must be a typo it happened all the time. Would have thought someone with care would have done the stamping on the car and plates after the work of building the car. As for my car CK17ME34053p is a special I don’t think it is as I have no stickers and also it came missing it’s engine so if it was it wouldn’t mean much missing the vital drive train. I just am questioning the theory these were the last Capris off the production line. Obviously their were later cars that went through so why were these cars left without drive trains. If mine got one and others as well. I’m more thinking someone in the motor dept stuffed up building them so those motors were scrapped and new ones found. Running out I understand but they would be installed on the last Capri Chassis numbers. 1972 Capris are my favorite with the high back seats and bugs all worked out. I really don’t care to much for the specials as 20hp 40+ years on really means nothing after all they must have been rebuilt a couple of times and if not I’d rebuild it anyway. Still I like to look for good honest Capris and if one of the specials comes up I know what to look for. My best Capri the one I love and just have that feeling for is a 1971 diamond White original matching numbers Auto and is in bits but a good base that has dents and no rust. It at the end of the day is a numbers thing, I can’t get my head around this number difference and just want a bit more clarity on how it could have occurred. Not trying to offend anyone as well.
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/06 17:15:12
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Just to finalise I have CK17ME34053, and CK17ME32939p both are close but they are also really special to me. Also have V6 blocks that are CK17ME which don’t match my cars. If anyone is searching for a particular number as I am for these cars we should start a register of blocks available and blocks requested to assist in getting these cars numbers matching if and where possible.
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/06 18:48:10
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FoxyCapri I'm very confused about all this, you see, I have the build records from the Homebush Assembly Plant and they show Capri's being built in all months up to and including November. The codes for these last five months of Capri builds should have been as follows, according to Fords Year/Month coding and the actual paperwork: All 1972, July - MD, August ME, September ML, October MY and November MS. Now in these months the following numbers of Capri's were assembled: July - 234, August - 173, September - 74, October - 60 and November - 50, these numbers being the total of all 1600 Deluxe, 1600 XL's and 3000 GT's built for the respective months. (Note: ALL model variants were assembled right up to and including, the month of November.) It has been suggested that ALL of the last Capri's assembled were stamped with the Year/Month code of ME, which is actually 1972 August and that there are therefore no ML, MY or MS coded Capri's for the months of September, October and November of 1972. HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN AN ML, MY OR MS CODED CAPRI? Also, the last of the Capri's were supposedly the 11 'Specials' fitted with the 'D' Port heads, etc. and the highest number of these is 34032. Now the Victorian Club records have a 34051P, a Teal GT/V6, which is clearly higher than the highest 'Special' number mentioned above. Now you can see why I'm confused! CAN ANYONE PLEASE EXPLAIN OR CAN WE FIND AN ML, MY OR MS CODED CAPRI? Gotta love a good mystery! Cheers, Terry
34032 ah crap i missed out by 2 cars mine is 34035 9/72 plated can you blokes show a pic of the manifold where you can tell its a d port head
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/06 19:22:02
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Look at inlet manifold and in front of carb if their is round raised section size of a twenty cent peice it's an oval port. If it's not there it's DPort. Would be missing on a 4barrel setup maybe. Hi number too. Sorry can't find pic at the moment.
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/06 21:04:34
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Unfortunately since the information about the "specials" came to light back in 2005 there has also been some misinformation or mistakes happen. I said back in 2005 that i thought that the eleven specials were the last capris made. I based this assumption on the build date of my car being 11/72. As there was then no information about build dates in the documents I thought that the build dates of all the specials would be 11/72. This proved incorrect as the build date information started to be revealed as more cars were found. Another bit of misinformation is that all eleven were "deletes". Only a minority of capris with the delete option were assembled, the majority having the usual stripes and blackouts, and the specials were no different. I will start a post in capri by the numbers soon with copies of all the "special" information so that all who are interested can find it easily. Cheers...ron.
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/06 21:25:52
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Got a call from a guy who reckons he has one of the 11 Specials. Its a Wild Plum CK17ME34026P built 9/72. I also sold a set of switches to a guy who has one in Yukon Yellow (or similar) I'll try and get its number
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/06 23:04:28
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JR, that number is not one of the 'specials', according to the paperwork!
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/07 16:33:25
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A pic of the detail between DPort and Oval port. Size of 20c piece in front of carb means Oval Port if it’s not there it’s Dport.
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/07 18:09:05
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More importantly Wiggy what was the chassis no of the first v6 assembled here. my earliest is CK17KL65166 A 1/70 delivered
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/07 20:25:34
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Wiggy333 A pic of the detail between DPort and Oval port. Size of 20c piece in front of carb means Oval Port if it’s not there it’s Dport.
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/07 20:29:48
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And I hear you on that Spud. It’s really a conversation about facts we all speculate on. Which was the first car and Colour of the line. Which was the last car and colour off the line and I don’t care either way but those facts would help out tremendously.
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2017/11/08 22:49:49
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Interesting reading so far ..this one is going the other way. ..the first few Capris ! .In the 90's i done some work on a gold Capri 1969 . What caught my attention was the strut towers were mig welded on without any spotwelds .. i asked the owner who was the 2nd at the time , he said the Capri didn't meet Australian road conditions and these strut plates as well as other plates about the car were welded on by Ford after it was built . He also said that only a handful got done like this till they caught up to the production/import run. Has anyone got, or seen one of these welded Capris and was the owner telling the truth. ....
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2021/06/15 19:38:01
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Digging up the past here a little. I would have to disagree with the strut towers. My guess is that they've been replaced and it was easier to just mig weld it up. I have a March 69 built capri, when they started production, and my strut tops are spot welded... unless of course being the first it slipped through...
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Re: Last Capri chassis number.
2021/06/15 21:08:10
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I don't want to split hairs here, and as a mechanic enthusiast back in those days you must remember 70s cars were worth less than scrap metal value ($100 or less) I don't think anyone would bother to repair them , aaaand unless you knew parts were available from UK at 5x the sticker price back then. The paint looked as weathered as the rest of the car. I don't have a photographic memory but this I do remember .
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