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2017/03/10 09:03:39 (permalink)
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BSS Special 165HP Capri Project

Ok so word is out I have acquired one of the 11 165HP capris.  This car was discovered in a collection of cars and parts being sold off due to the owners ill health.  At first I did not pay too much attention to the car as it was the sellers Track / Race Car and had done a few hards laps by the look of it.  My initial plan was to tart it up make it run and drive, then move it on.
 
On closer inspection there was a 165HP decal in the engine bay.  A quick look in the drivers door jamb saw a second 165HP sticker.  There is a list of the 11 cars that were fitted with the later 3000E capri running gear.  A check of the chassis number confirmed that this car is one of the 11, though not technically one of the Stillwell sold cars.  
 
This discovery changed my plans for the car, as it deserves to be put back to stock.  A lot of its original parts were removed and swapped for race items, notable parts missing were
 
Engine - "D port" matching number engine not in car nor in collection of parts
Wheels - Special long slot Rostyles no longer fitted * 2 were found in the collection and a lead on where the other 2 may be
Front seats - swapped for race seat, original High back buckets missing (car has B2 trim, original cloth rear seat is present) 
Left front guard and bonnet - Fibreglass items, orange V6 bonnet in spares but pin holes in wrong location for '72
Tail lights - converted to early Skyline lights, holes chopped to accomodate them, replacement panel section found in spares
 
The original gearbox is a 3 rod side link same as regular V6's but have the later ratios.  There are 3 boxes in the spares pile Im hoping that one of them is the correct box.  Worst case scenario I can get the gear set from a later type 5 internal link capri box from the UK.  The car has a T5 5 speed fitted with a small section cut out of the stick hole in the tunnel to allow for the further throw, we have spare tunnels so that can be easily fixed.
 
Diff should be a 3.09 its unknown whats in the car currently, although I'm reliably informed that the centre gears have been welded.  This presents no problem as I have a spare spider gear set and 3.09 gears are easy to get.
 
Trim is surprisingly good, the dash cluster is a custom item but its original clocks and pad are still there, as is the console and door trims.  I have ordered new carpet and am on the hunt for a pair of high back seats.
 
Body is actually very sound.  A pillars no drama and almost no rust.  Whatever caused the guard to require replacement did not mess up the front which is a bonus.
 
The car was delivered in "Delete" option form ie no stripes, no blackout on the bonnet, and the GT badge located where the XL is usually seen instead of over the wheelarch. The seller is the documented second owner of the car having owned it since 1983.  I have a photo of it pre race car conversion for reference, which is handy.
 
I have had a great deal of interest in the car with several expressions of interest to buy it.  I will hold off on selling as I want to follow up a few leads to recover any missing items, but you know me, if someone absolutely positively has to have it then it can go allowing me to concentrate on the other car that came with it, a 1970 Silver fox GT V6 (but thats another story).  
 
First 2 photos are how it was in 1982 when it was bought by its (now former) owner.  The second 2 are "as found" last week
Stay tuned for the next thrilling installment 
post edited by gtv6capri - 2017/04/09 21:13:42

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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 09:10:25 (permalink)
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    Right time right place!
     
    Can we see some pics of the collection??
     
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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 09:54:28 (permalink)
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    i may have a pair of high backs that may suit your BSS SPECIAL 165HP Stillwell special v6 flame yellow project JR  - will catch up next week
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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 10:35:06 (permalink)
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    spud15
    i may have a pair of high backs that may suit your BSS SPECIAL 165HP Stillwell special v6 flame yellow project JR  - will catch up next week




    "Delete Option" Stef, you must mention the Delete Option .  I would love the high backs, I can incorporate a V6 shell in a horse trade - may have the matching block for the shell but need to check.

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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 10:41:34 (permalink)
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    Always keen to do a deal on what u need
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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 10:50:57 (permalink)
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    All this talk about hi back seats...............and my 1972 delete 165HP has plain low back seats.........whats going on ?
    Was this an option ? .......or did previous owners change what was standard for 1972 1/11 deletes?????
    Any input is very much appreciated.......cheers
    Well scored John!..............seems like you hit the Jackpot with another 1/11 missing Deletes now found !
    Is this your only Delete 165HP or do you have more ?
     
     

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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 11:35:42 (permalink)
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    All 72 cars have High back seats for ADR requirements.  Most likely your originals split years ago and it was cheaper to swap them for low backs than have the originals recovered.
     
    Not all of the 11 165HP's were in Delete Option form, in fact the others I have seen were spec'ed up with nearly every option in the book to help clear them.  At least 3 had the factory sunroofs.   
     
    I know of 8 of the 11 cars, this is my only encounter with owning one ( I did miss Murrays Jewel Green sunroof car when it was sold by a Bendigo car yard- still ruing that day as they would not trade my TRX bluebird on it because he already had an identical one...)

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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 13:45:37 (permalink)
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    I did ask him as to the engine number - he told me it came without the original engine - I checked my stock of engine blocks and.... found one that may be of interest to u. its only the block...
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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 14:37:18 (permalink)
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    the mustard one I had briefly had parcel shelf, no sunroof, 5 rostyles (which I still have),centre clock console, blackout, and overriders.
     
    I think the seats where highback.
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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 19:16:46 (permalink)
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    Awesome find...
    So theres three more still at large? I'm always on the scrounge so that gives me some hope... I'll put in on the list next to my fabled GT500 Cortina. Any idea of the missing cars vin numbers anyone?
    Cheers Drew.

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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 19:33:59 (permalink)
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    I know of one that's dead - so maybe 2
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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 22:25:42 (permalink)
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought any eng no or chassis no that started with  CK17ME----- could only be one of the 11 Delete 165HP 1972 cars ???

     
    Thanks John re "highback seats"......I gotta ease back on the Bourbon......turns out mine ARE high back !!!!! ...boy!

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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/10 22:40:10 (permalink)
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    No there r other cm17me ones
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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/11 00:37:00 (permalink)
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    Bernie, Spud is dead right!
     
    These were a select group of 11 Capri's in the last batch assembled in November, 1972, hence the ME codes where, M = 1972 and E = November. Records show that there were 22 GT/V6 manuals and 6 GT/V6 automatics assembled in November, 1972, the last month of production. Ten of these Capri's were retrofitted with the UK 'Facelift' mechanicals. The other one was actually a CK17LE prefix, as it had a customer complaint and that Capri received the 'facelift' upgrade. Only 4 of these 11 cars were re-badged as 'Bib Stillwell Specials or BSS' cars and these were 'to be sold on the basis of special imported vehicles' according to the Ford Australia document, dated March 13, 1973! The other seven cars were used by Ford executives and were sold on later. By my records, yours is NOT one of the 4 BSS cars.
     
    Also, they were NOT all 'delete option' 165bhp Capri's!
     
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    Re: BSS Special 165HP Capri Project 2017/03/12 07:53:32 (permalink)
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    Yes I do have 2 Ck17Me cars but they aren't apparently these special165hp cars. They weren't all made in November either but badged up only when sold. I'd be interested to know the chassis number of the last Mk1 sold.
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