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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/13 20:59:52 (permalink)
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thats a wierd one if gasket was blown and you tested it while engine was running it would of shown some sign of pressure loss within 30 min ,,gee thats a weird one ..
 
the only other thing i could think of if the pressure is holding is either some broken fins in the water pump or rusted out fins  that doesnt allow it to pump water thru the engine fully ..
 
certainly is a weird one
 
i think i have 2 new spare head gaskets laying around if you want to chuck them on might even have the manifold gasket as well ... there not the real good brand name ones but if you want to give it a go let me know and ill express them to you
 
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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/13 21:24:15 (permalink)
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Looks like you did some damage driving it for who knows how long and in what highway temperatures without a Radiator Cap which was invented to raise the boiling point of your coolant ?
Without this advantage of high boiling point for who knows how long (details are sparse), the water has expanded and overflowed (no cap to control nature), so less coolant and zero pressure to help engine stay cool results in a very overheated engine, prob not helped by a partially blocked & very overdue Major Flush by a Radiator Shop.........don't fool yself with chemicals: nothing beats tank removal and a thoro rod-gering of the core tubes by a Rad Shop.......bit like real or pretend sex, toys may be ok for a while, but nothing beats the REAL thing !
BEFORE PULLING HEADS, get local mechanic to do a RAD atmosphere test with designated TEST EQUIP which detects CO (Carbon monoxide) in the Rad , and also how concentrated which helps isolate if heads are cracked. "WEAK" may indicate just gasket/s. Even if rep heads with D port, get old ones tested, so ur not putting new Heads on maybe a cracked Block !

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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/13 22:04:46 (permalink)
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"the only other thing i could think of if the pressure is holding is either some broken fins in the water pump or rusted out fins  that doesnt allow it to pump water thru the engine fully"
 
That's exactly what I am tippin', or restricted coolant flow through radiator. But as BeeVee mentioned may now be subsequent damage also. With these sort of issues usually there is a sequence of problems not just one.
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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/13 22:11:06 (permalink)
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I am not a mechanic & do not have the mechanical expertise that others on this forum have but I am just a silly old bugger who mucks about with Capris. So, I will add my 2 bobs worth but I think it has already been covered.
I had a similar problem with my 1600 Capri & couldn't work out what the problem was until another club member alerted me to the fact that I had the wrong radiator cap. As you have already said, you have tried both the recovery & non- recovery types. When I went to buy a new cap at Autobarn, the guys usually do not even know there are two types & the new Tridon caps have no markings on them to distinguish which ones they are. The part numbers are Non-Recovery-Tridon CN1390 or CPC 508-13 & for Recovery - Tridon CA1390 or CPC543-13. I am not sure if they are the same for the V6s but having the correct cap solved my problem.
If you want to read more of my story on my blog, this is the page with some pics:
http://fordcaprichatter.blogspot.com.au/search?updated-max=2016-02-22T03:57:00-08:00&max-results=7&start=14&by-date=false
Hope you don't have to do some serious work on the motor.
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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/13 22:42:38 (permalink)
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Just to illustrate how cool these V6 engines run, I have driven countless kms without Fan Blades, no Thermo fan, no Shroud and no Panel between rad Sup Panel and Top rad tank.............................
Thanks to a TOTALLY CLEANED OUT Rad, 74 degree thermostat, very clean Block/water-jacket, 50% AFAB coolant, and a well tuned engine.
Only disadvantage: without a fan you cant risk heavy slow traffic esp on hot days.
Main advantage: more power, less wear/tear, and better fuel economy. 
Am soon to try eliminating Fan Pulley/Bearing with shorter Belt.
Any cons; none
Any pros; same as above 3 lines up
post edited by BEEVEE - 2016/12/13 23:02:35

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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/14 07:32:54 (permalink)
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Has anyone used those Chinese aluminium radiators that are on eBay?
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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/14 08:45:44 (permalink)
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So drove to work this morning after topping up the radiator again. I only use concentrated coolant and demineralised water. Park it up and a couple of drips on the concrete. Let it cool for 10 mins and opened the cap with towel of cause. No fluid loss. Then revved it up and fluid goes down slightly and back up when left to idle with no real bubbles to be seen. Watched for five minutes and put cap back on. Couple of dribbles start again. Then I turned it off and the dribbles or drops then turn into a constant flow out the overflow pipe but only happens when you turn car off. Pissing me off at the moment.
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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/14 09:28:57 (permalink)
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that sounds exactly what my fairlane was doing  thought it was the head gasket on its way out or cracked alloy head ... car was fine driving.... and cap off didnt do anything  abnormal but as soon as i turnned engine off  within couple minutes it was pissing out of overflow
 
after little bit of searching and doubble checking was the radiator cap seal and wrong radiator cap
psi rating ... the pressure was pushing the spring up to easy and would piss out of the over flow.. went and got one of a spare radiator and never did it again
 
just check that the seal is good and fits in the mouth of radiator fully  some sit flat and seal.. some i notice made in china crap  dont sit flush and only a portion of the seal is  sealing so wont take much pressure to spring it up or one side and then you get the overflow pissing out
 
 
post edited by in rod we trust - 2016/12/14 09:36:34
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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/15 02:25:45 (permalink)
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Based on what I have read there is no way you need to pull the heads off and you should avoid that like the plague.  Every skim changes how the inlet manifold lines up and seals because of the V shape and soon you get to the point where front and rear manifold seals fail.  
 
My guess is that the little raised ring that the cap rubber seats on is corroded and letting water past - it happened to mine.  You don't need to worry about priming with the heater on, the heater controls only move an air flap, there isn't a valve in the water system like on modern cars.  Slow bubbles could just be some cavitation in the pump.  If you had anything more sinister you would have a stream on bubbles and the pressure test wouldn't hold.  These things are hopeless in traffic on hot days so if it is corrosion on the cap seat get a new radiator custom made with more cores and fit a recovery system, there's a good reason why every modern car has one (A recovery cap without the bottle does nothing different to a normal cap), and while the radiator is out you might as well fit a new pump to save you doing it all again later.
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Re: Radiator issues V6 Capri Auto 2016/12/15 06:39:20 (permalink)
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I bought another new cap yesterday and will try that. The radiator does seem to be in great condition so I will pull that out and flush it as well as the whole system. The Perana radiator was $100 to get flushed and braze welded at the cap fitting and almost spent that now on new caps and coolant. Let you all know how it goes in a couple of days. I do have a new water pump as well for another car but will install that at the same time. Thank you for your advise.
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