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2016/11/27 10:49:51 (permalink)
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I just don' get it.......

I visited a large wrecking yard in western Sydney a few days ago.
 
After a few minutes of walking around rows and rows of dead cars it dawned on me that most of the cars there were much better than the old cars I own and struggle to keep running.
 
One car in particular drew my attention was an FG Falcon XR6 probably only 6 or so years old in the gorgeous light metallic blue colour. I walked around it wondering what on earth it was doing there. Not a mark on the paint which was glistening in the early morning sun. Finally realised the drivers front guard had a slight dint on it which could have been easily been removed and repaired in a few hours. There was no apparent structural damage. Even the air bags had not gone off.
 
On the windscreen was a large notice saying this car was a statuary write off in NSW and all states of Australia.
 
I can't get my head around why such a car was considered a write off, and of no value except in parts......
And why old car enthusiasts spend thousands of dollars and thousands of hours on the old cars struggling to keep them going.
 
Seems weird that the newer (and better) cars retain very little dollar value after only a few years.
 
I just don't get it......
 
 
 
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    cosworthfreak
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/27 13:17:06 (permalink)
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    Maybe it's run over something and had chassis damage, or it's had some drivetrain failure. Otherwise, it certainly sounds good.

    I'm guessing the threshold for Stat. writeoff is lower than it once was?
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/27 17:03:05 (permalink)
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    I thought I read somewhere that if the car has any suspension damage at all then it is game over for the whole car.

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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/27 17:35:37 (permalink)
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    I was always of the opinion that cars were written off when the cost of repairs exceeded the value of the car by a certain percentage.  On the other end of the scale when you look at how V8 supercar teams rebuild whole cars, including chassis straightening, makes you wonder about the structural integrity of new cars to write them off with minor damage.  Maybe with the modern push to have lighter and faster cars they are becoming more and more a " throw away item." Len
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/27 21:06:32 (permalink)
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    waterdamage?
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/27 22:15:07 (permalink)
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    All above is correct, PLUS the majority of the public have too much money and too little patience to bother with all the faults that develop in these modern cars. It's likely they've decided that what it needs to make good, is money they'll never see again, or fear that other things will go wrong, and hey, "I was getting bored with that car, and want something different".......cars have NEVER been cheaper; new or used ! I too was shocked at the prevalence of current models in all brands in seemingly as-new condition I see at Simsmetal every week...................except Toyotas and their ilk.
    The wreckers even take just the fast-selling "trinkets" off and Simsmetal the other 90% of the entire car
    Get a shock and check the new AND used car market for "common cars"...........mind-blowing!
     
    One example: 4 years ago (2012), a client sold me an as-new Luxury full-house BMW E39 525i for $500 for a car that cost over $100,000 only 10 years earlier. His daughter wanted something different after Mummy handed it to her when it was 5 years old! Four years later & is still driving faultlessly.  Not an isolated case by a long shot. I could narate another dozen or so similar cases thru F&F proving the market and free-flowing money is distorted to blazes...........do this: save your bucks for the big "melt-down" which is coming who knows when, but when it does, those "cashed-up" will get unprecedented bargains at their feet that you could only dream of now. 
     
    post edited by BEEVEE - 2016/11/27 22:19:29

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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/27 22:42:47 (permalink)
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    "save your bucks for the big "melt-down" which is coming who knows when"
     
    Interesting you are feeling the same way too.
    I am studying the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1901. Interesting to learn about how many laws we all abide by every day which are in fact unlawful, and consider how the country is held together under a very thin veil of smoke and mirrors. We are not as safe and secure as we are taught to believe.
     
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/28 07:17:23 (permalink)
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    "In the UK, most people lease cars now and change them every couple of years."
     
    Does that mean they are not able to pay cash for them?
     
    Seems counter productive to pay interest and taxes on a rapidly depreciating liability which has little net value after only a few years.
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/28 09:04:06 (permalink)
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    (deep and meaningfulls on CF?)
     
    If you are holding onto your cash for 'the big meltdown" then how exactly do you do it?
    We've never had lower interest rates ( and my first mortgage went through 18-20% interest rates), so my money in the bank is earning nothing. Super  regulations are being played with daily, and negative gearing (rightly) is being looked at.
    Getting further OT, interesting times in the US make me hestitant to look at stockmarket, so ideas ???
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/28 12:19:15 (permalink)
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    wovr inspectors were being threatened and couldnt be guaranteed safe in the work place hence the total write off of all cars in nsw.
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/28 21:29:28 (permalink)
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    "most local bi-laws are unconstitutional"
     
    Interesting you have mentioned that.
    The Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1901 clearly does not recognize local councils as being a third tier of government.
     
    The Constitution clearly states that only the federal government has the power to raise taxes, with a few exceptions for state taxes. 
     
    So clearly your local council cannot charge rates and taxes on your privately owned land, because it is not a federal government. In fact your local council is a corporation because it has an ABN. (please check your council rates notice). Governments do not have an ABN.
     
    My local council appears unable to answer my short letters I have been sending them since May 2016 asking them to please provide in printed form (ie a letter) the exact law, the exact act and the exact section that states the payment of taxes on privately owned land is mandatory by the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1901.
    They reply side stepping my questions and choose to send threatening and intimidating letters threatening legal action.
     
    The Commonwealth Attorney-General  for Australia side steps my short letters with indirect answers despite me asking for a simple "yes" or "no" answer to my very simple questions.
     
    Other government departments appear unable to reply despite my continual follow up letters.
     
    The entire NSW Local Government Act (1993) is unlawful since it has not received royal assent, and because the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1901 does not recognize this "law".
     
    Also a number of state owned corporations are trading/operating unlawfully.
     
    We are being duped.
     
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/29 21:39:56 (permalink)
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    From the other side of the fence we deal with alot of psychopathic ratepayers daily... People (who pay our wages aparently) think we're all making rulings from a dark chamber sitting in chairs made from the bones of dead children. You're average clerk or outside worker has nothing to do with any 'rulings' and are usually well trained in verbal judo, you'd be suprised how quickly you can shut down a dickhead with a bee in their bonnet...
     
    Anyway back to the cars, I'm with the lack of patience/ timebomb theory. The oldies next door just got rid of their one owner, always garaged, serviced and pampered EL Fairmont. He reckons it was getting unreliable "Last year I had to do a radiator, this year it was the power steering, I just can't trust it" He got $500 at the wreckers for it, still licenced. Wow I thought, the old man was always patching up the family Anglia and later the Escort. How things have changed. X series Falcons used to be worth nothing, now try to find one for under 10g. Same with our small Fords... If only I had space to store that E series Fairmont...
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/29 22:45:20 (permalink)
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    Leasing cars is very popular in the USA too. I was in L.A 6 weeks ago around West Hollywood and the number of luxury sports cars was impressive. There was a billboard for the new Chrysler, MSRP $80K USD. You could have this for a $2K up front and $500 a month lease plan.
     
    I don't think it's all negative. It's great that Porsches, Ferraris, Lambos, Bentleys, Beamers, oh and the ridiculous amount of Teslas, are within reach of many rather than just the dirty rotten filthy stinking rich.
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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/11/30 20:44:52 (permalink)
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    Damn Drew - makes me think my son wasted his money on his van - should have bought that Fairmont!

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    Re: I just don' get it....... 2016/12/03 23:27:13 (permalink)
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    "Car leasing is a bit of a con..."
     
    I was brought up the old way, "If you can't afford to pay cash for it, you can't afford it."
     
    I was also brought up to believe, "If you can't buy a Dodge, dodge a Ford." (I seem to have ignored that one.)
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