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2015/07/31 18:35:41 (permalink)
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Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec

I have a capri to sell, it was originally a 1600GT, which has been treated (probably during the 80's ) to a V6 transplant.  Engine box and diff all correct MK1 V6 items.  The radiator supports are V6 and the triangular gussets are welded in, it has the 6 bolt Xmember and I can even supply the correct brake lines.  Very clean and straight car.  It was previously registered in Qld with the V6. 
 
Now, is there a market for a "clone" if so what would it be worth?.  I would estimate that if the car was a correct V6 i'd want about 15k, I will of course advertise it for what it actually is so no-one is mislead.  Clones are something Ive never bothered with so I have surprisingly little knowledge of this area of the market.  I'd be keen to hear other peoples thoughts

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    900dukess
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/07/31 19:18:33 (permalink)
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    Interesting thread.
    Not sure what the market value is for a "clone V6" compared to a genuine V6.
    Not real sure of a genuine V6 current value in the current market, I suppose it all comes down what somebody is prepared to pay.
    However good 4 cylinder Capris have been advertised for the 13 k to 20 k mark so may bring a little more than a 4 cylinder Capri.
    it may sound funny but body colour and trim colour may also affect value.
    It is a full V6 clone, i.e. correct dash, bonnet  it may be worth 3k - 5 k more than a equivalant 4 cylinder.
    Just my 2 cents worth.
    This one has been advertised for a while and may give a indication of the current market for a V6 clone.
    http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=SSE-AD-3406209&Cr=0
     
     
     

     


     
     
     

     
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/07/31 21:25:35 (permalink)
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    Very reluctant to pay more than 7k Tops for a conversion. The one on car sales is very nicely done but good v6's can be brought for even less than 15k. I would feel a lot more comfortable with a real one
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/07/31 21:58:55 (permalink)
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    Generally, there would only be a market for a clone/replica/tribute where the genuine article is rare and/or expensive. Genuine V6 capris are getting harder to find, but values are low compared with more desirable cars, and also generally lower than the median income in Australia ($45k).

    If you'd value the car at $15k (if it were genuine) then I'd say reduce that by ~ 30%. However, given it is a 1600 GT, that must be worth something extra? Also, condition and modifications/parts (e.g. better gearbox, improved motor) would add further value again. The trend I see with classic/muscle cars is that genuine and original cars is where the real value is.

    The main issue I'd have is the car being represented as genuine, but this shouldn't be something you worry about as you're being honest at the time of sale. But with the extra V6 bits added to the body, it's easier for some scumbag down the line to misrepresent the car. Making that worse is that there is still a lot of heresay and conjecture around what genuine V6s had/how they were built. I know of a handful of cars that were sold as genuine V6s that are clearly not, and the owners either don't know or don't want to know. I've been stung in the past, which is the main reason I harp on about it.

    Have you got any pictures, that might help put a value on it?

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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/07/31 22:14:08 (permalink)
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    I'll give it a tart up as some young guy put a big stereo in it and colour coded the console and built a custom parcel shelf, it will then be a remarkably straight and original looking car.  Ill get the engine running sweet and check for mods (it has a holley) its got the K-Mac adjustable strut tops, but the bonnet is fibreglass.  Front guards look to have been new replacement at some point, there are a lot of good features, it just pains me that its a clone.  Ill put some pics up when its sorted.  I was thinking I could chase up 1600GT running gear and advertise it as a 1600GT with V6 conversion but retains correct gear to put back to stock, that might work

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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/01 08:56:41 (permalink)
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    Alternatively you could put back to 4cyl and sell the running v6 gear back to someone that owns the v6 and requires it. You can pick up the 1600 running gear quite cheaply and that would then have the v6 running gear being sold for a premium. Or as we all know sell the v6 running gear and the 4cyl as a roller for those who want to do the v8 conversion.
    It comes down to time and money really but I for one still require a v6 motor for one of my cars plus other bits. That's my thoughts.
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/01 11:24:15 (permalink)
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    Just wondering if it's a 1971 engine (CK17L?....). I'm always hopeful to find the original block for my '71 V6.
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/01 11:36:20 (permalink)
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    Same I am always asking for Engine number to maybe score a matching number for my bodies. 
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/02 02:05:59 (permalink)
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    The other thing that drives values is originality, so it would depend on what else is not original.   
     
    A matching numbers V6 that looks really good just sold for $7500 on ebay.  How the heck did that happen!!!
     
    Maybe a thread where people list engine numbers of spare engines would be a way to reconnect cars with their original engines.
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/02 11:27:46 (permalink)
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    $7500 for a matching number V6 in good condition sounds impossible. Like to know which car it was as I never saw it listed. And that being the case it makes all 4cyl listed above that overpriced and other V6 well overpriced. The chap that bought it must be very happy with himself or Pictures didn't show the amount of work required. 
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/02 11:52:58 (permalink)
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    It was $7500 Buy Now. I would have pressed it if some lucky devil (who I suspect may be well known to forum members) didn't get in before me. Sometimes you have to be in the right place at the right time and as disappointed as I was, I'll just keep my eyes out for the next time.

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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/02 12:17:20 (permalink)
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/02 13:15:06 (permalink)
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    Ok the jig is up, I bought it, but read the ad closely he says Original GT, he does not say say original GT V6.  The Matching number bit relates to the body number and the ID plate, and the engine number with the QLD roads paperwork (his words).  Apparantely he did not mean it was a full on matching number car, then pleaded ignorance as he saw the triangle plates and 6 bolt x-member.  He also forgot to mention that the bonnet is fibreglass....
    As such the car is not really of interest to me, but, it would still make a great project for someone.  I will right a few interior wrongs, get it going and offer it up for sale with an accurate physical description.
      
    Moral of the story, If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 

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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/02 13:18:28 (permalink)
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    Yeesh! Glad I didn't see it
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    Re: Value of converted 4cyl Capri to V6 spec 2015/08/02 13:30:59 (permalink)
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    So it all comes full circle really to the naming and reason for the thread. You did not really have to go through with sale if was not as advertised unless you really wanted the car. 
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