Cholaso
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Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
Has anybody had any experience with brake kits from Burtons. I am looking at upgrading my front brakes and eventually rears for road use, however i dont want to start modifying my struts in anyway. I would like to know that i can simply bolt on a system. I dont even want to enlarge the bolt holes. Burtons, has the following kit for example http://www.burtonpower.co...-powerlite-rdbk1r.htmlbut it doesnt mention if any mods are required. Any input would be great as my brakes are practically useless even after a rebuild. Regards Rodney
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2015/07/02 09:57:33
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Those brackets have been made specialy for the job so yes it should all just bolt on. Final adjustment is taken care of with the use of washers.
Also as the area of the pistons is similar to original then there will be no master cylinder problems or balance problems. Disc clearance to ball joint will have been taken into consideration. Because the disc bolts to the hub the same as original then the wheel will end up in the same place, an important thing if clearance to the mudguard is already minimal.
Will it solve your braking problems?
Maybe, but if there are other things wrong such as oversize rear drums with shoes not making proper contact, booster not performing and the wrong front pads then it will all add up to a lacklustre result.
You could shoot an email to Burtons regarding the compatibility of the kit.
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2015/07/02 13:07:26
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Great. Thanks for ur feedback. I wonder if anyone has used them.
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2015/08/06 13:27:02
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That kit, nor any others from the UK will not fit your mark 2 Escort strut without major modifications. They are all made for the Capri strut.
Australian mark 2 struts were different to any strut used in the UK.
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2016/05/25 21:17:41
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Hi All,
can i simply swap my original Mk 1 Escort front struts complete with rotors and calipers for mk 2 escort struts etc ?
If so do i use the mk 2 master cylinder without a booster ?
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2016/05/25 21:29:15
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☄ Helpfulby 1970Mexican 2016/05/26 12:18:45
If you fit mk2 struts you will also need the steering rack to match. You may need to change or modify the brake line to metric at the caliper..imperial and metric don't mix. M/cyl can stay mk1 , keep the vac booster.
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2016/05/25 22:56:41
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I have half a Hopper Stoppers kit almost brand new. Braided brake lines and callipers with adapters and brand new pads. You need hubs and rotors. $300 ONO Chris
post edited by Nukem - 2016/05/25 23:21:16
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2016/05/26 12:22:39
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Hi Marty,
thanks for the advice, much appreciated.
Chris, still sussing out options. Will keep in mind, thanks.
Paul
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2017/01/14 16:26:30
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hey mate i got a kit of ebay fairly cheap all bolt on very simple to fit.
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2021/07/09 20:47:43
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Hi Guys, Resurrecting this old thread because I'm looking at front brake options and wanted to use previous comments. I suppose it follows on from PF's HiSpec brake conversion on the current 'Mk2 Escort sleeper project' thread. I note with interest that Stephen McKay comments that UK kits will not fit Australian MK2 Escort struts. Smcka
That kit, nor any others from the UK will not fit your mark 2 Escort strut without major modifications. They are all made for the Capri strut.
Australian mark 2 struts were different to any strut used in the UK.
Is this true as I have never sourced any brake components from the UK? Either pieced stuffed together here or used Hoppers. This car is being built for tarmac/track. If so what is the difference between UK and Australian MK2 Escort struts? You may remember my hassle with the ride height on the Capri last year using a spring (CS132) Burtons said would lower the car! Raised it by about 2". That I assumed was due to spring seat height differences. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2021/07/09 21:40:02
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hi Mark, interesting thread to bring back, but I'm with you on SMKa's comments. The front struts I have in my 77 van seem to have the narrower dia springs, so whilst they are theoretically rebuit, they have nothing special brake wise so possibly not worth keeping. If I have to swap the steering rack over also as per SMKA, in order to get Capri or better escort (2L?) ones, well that's just something else that needs to get done. Have you seen the converted full struts/brake kits from Anthony Ford Escort Specialists on facebook? https://www.facebook.com/Ford-Escort-Specialists-292320747974662
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2021/07/10 10:44:30
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I put gpr4 struts on my mk2 and all my oem brakes bolted on with no problems at all, so im assuming the m16 caliper bolt spacing is the same. I wonder if the bolt on steering arm vs aus made cast steering arm causes the issues? also want some brake porn, suss this - http://www.reyland.co.uk/front/
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2021/07/10 15:49:04
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Thanks for the input fellas.
Deano, I have seen the Ford Escort Specialists listings but honestly, as I have Proflex front and rear, its really only the braking part I'm after and at the end of the day I think AP or Wilwood is the way to go. Only issue is I use 5 stud 114.3 PCD (Falcon) pattern so will have to sort hubs out separately.
My first conversion back in the late 80's was a Pinto into a mk1 Escort. I remember getting some V6 struts (complete assembly and easily come by back then!) and that was about it in that area, everything worked. Mk1 Capri and MK1 Escort. All good.
Yes Robbie, as for the earlier bolt on arms versus the one piece cast I know there is a difference but I have never bothered getting one of each assembly next to each other to measure up. As you used GP4 struts, anything from the UK should fit as per Smcka's comment. The calipers are the same.
There are more suppliers of AP than I thought imaginable!
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2021/07/10 18:30:42
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My struts were from the uk so as above, everything fits nicely. Unable to shed light on any differences between UK/Aus struts.
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Re: Mk2 Escort Front Brake Kit
2021/07/11 13:56:07
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A few places in the Uk should be able to make supply hubs in your chosen stud spacing, once I’m back on the computer I might be able to find some.
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