chubs0191
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surely some one has done it!
Hey guys, I'm new here!
I am writing this aware that some people don't like this sort of thing,
I have a 1970, 1600 done up like a gt (kind of) I also have a vp commodore wreck with lots of goodies! And I want to know has anyone done OR looked into the buick 3800 v6 conversion?
I have spent an extra lot of time going down the turbo efi kent x/flow road over the past few years, and made a lot of headway but have had a recent realisation that I'm just going to end up with a few broken engines and a broken heart and be no better off so for now I am no longer interested.
I intend to use the 3800 engine, the t5 manual, a modified BW m78 diff and hopefully vp brakes and any other bits and pieces as I go.
Just curious to see what some one else may have learned already
regards
Blake
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/05 00:08:19
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A xflow is never going to exhilarate in a heavy shell such as the Capri. You need torque which the 3.8 will provide.
But it's Australia where Holden and Ford will always be rivals so expect some criticism. If that doesn't faze you, go for it.
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/05 05:56:44
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V6 conversions at Moree use to do a kit years ago but as Whooligan said to even mention the subject brings criticism
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/05 08:18:31
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Chubs, nothing wrong with upgrading to more modern drivelines. shame we have such brand specific ideas. If a commodore v6 is what you have and can afford, go for it, on a different note ive seen a datsun 1200 ute with a twin turbo toyota v6 which would be lighter. To me, i can appreciate any v6 capri, std, triple webered or retro engined. Di try to engineer it as a nice workable compromise that can be reversed back to original and you will keep both purists and retro users onside. This will also help your resale if you do change plans down the track.
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/05 10:42:39
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I disagree with Ratta regarding the Capri's "heavy shell", its not much heavier than an Escort, just a little stretched and better balanced in my opinion. The longer wheel base allows it to handle more power without getting too twitchy (which ive found with hot motors Ive had in the past.)
The kent is what it is and probably should never made it into a Capri in the first place, but alas it did.
"Heavy shell" as in "too heavy for a crossflow" That's all that was meant ;)
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/05 12:07:47
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I understand and kind of expect such criticism I used to be one of these purist types I feel like if I don't like the type attention I Receive ill just leave the bonnet down and let the numbers and the mystery do the talking so the dudes in morree might be a good place to start, I want to do it because its a bit different and will go like a shower of sh!t as a standard commo goes not to bad and at half the weight!
post edited by chubs0191 - 2015/01/05 12:14:18
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/05 20:28:16
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Isn't the Buick V6 a 90 degree engine? If so, it will be a bit wider than your usual 60 degree V6. Better check it will fit without any drama.
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/05 20:48:04
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I know a bloke that did it, his names James Forge and lives in Qld, he would happily share his experiences, someone here might know his e-mail
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/05 22:36:31
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90 degree should be fine people put clevos in them
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/05 23:44:47
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I thought Jim was still in Canberra/Queanbeyan, but may be wrong. I have an old Yahoo email address that may still work: Jim5_0@yahoo.com.au
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/06 09:11:34
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I thought Jim was still in Canberra/Queanbeyan, but may be wrong. I have an old Yahoo email address that may still work: Jim5_0@yahoo.com.au
Just flicked an email off to jim, no good that email account is deleted Oh well... those guys in moree may still be able to shed some light on the situation when i can call them on the 12th
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/06 10:56:05
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chubs0191
90 degree should be fine people put clevos in them
A very good point!
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/06 15:06:52
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When I bought it my capri had a 231 Buick v6 engine in it which is the fore runner to the commo v6 so I can tell you for sure that it will fit and will clear brake master/booster, steering etc. You may have to modify the sump but it will go in the bay. I still have all the Buick gear that was in my capri if it's of any interest to you? Engine mounts to suit 4 banger cross member, flywheel, clutch and bell housing to suit BorgWarner single rail 4 speed (maybe 5 speed too) and tail shaft to suit what I think was an atlas diff from a later capri. Also the buick engine (carby version) itself too? Nick
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/06 15:30:39
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Seen a few now in early cortinas, they are cheap as chips given the price of early commodores. You might struggle with the sump as they have a front sump but other than that, it should fit without any problems.
Some will not like the fact that it is a Holden engine, yet we are happy to run Volvo calipers on or BMW discs, Toyota 5 speeds, Holden uni joints, hilux diffs with Alfa discs and Nissan calipers on Saab rims.
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Re: surely some one has done it!
2015/01/06 20:00:55
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Yeah and sometimes Ford does it for us. .mazda duratec motor and suspension in the Focus mk2 & mk3 .. my mk2 Focus ST has a Volvo 5cyl turbo engine and gearbox !
The Buick v6 has been around since early 70s , it was also supercharged in the late 70s in a usa Buick sedan and was a tough engine .. I've seen a 3.8 in a bmw 318i and it went like the clappers !! I'm not a fan of using a motor from the opposition but it's your vehicle to play with however you like and enjoy. ☺
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