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Re: 2014 changes to the Victorian club permit scheme 2015/03/20 12:59:20 (permalink)
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Look for a shot of a MK1 front on and you will work out where the factory spot was pretty easily

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Re: 2014 changes to the Victorian club permit scheme 2015/03/21 14:25:31 (permalink)
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Do the new changes combined with NCOP now make any new club registrations with 6 point cages ruled out???
 
I presume all the race/track cars with cages in the past been signed of by clubs without a RWC or am I missing something?
 
From my inquiries a rwc with full cage is a no no, therefore no new club regs, or am I speaking to the wrong people?
 
Even retrospectively any front legs that dont go through the dash do not meet meet VSI 28 and/or required VASS anyway?
 
I'm a little confused.
 
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Re: 2014 changes to the Victorian club permit scheme 2015/03/21 16:35:35 (permalink)
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From what I understand (don't take this as gospel), if you wanted to have a cage fitted, your car would become a Modified Vehicle, and require an engineering certificate on top of the RWC, under the revised permit rules. 
 
My 2c worth is that there is a staggered Engineering Certificate system required for permit driven cars.  This would allow modications at different levels not a one size fits all approach.  ie your CAMS approved cage should only require say a level 1 inspection if the driveline is factory correct.  A car with a V8 conversion brake swap revised suspension etc would be say a level 5.  You get the idea 

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Re: 2014 changes to the Victorian club permit scheme 2015/03/21 19:08:50 (permalink)
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From my discussions a 6 point cage is not a problem so long as the front legs go through the dash.
It is the side intrusion bars that are a no no
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Re: 2014 changes to the Victorian club permit scheme 2015/03/22 22:25:17 (permalink)
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From my discussions a 6 point cage is not a problem so long as the front legs go through the dash.



Exactly my point. From the cars I see on club reg, this is definately the minority, either meaning they were previously signed off without a valid rwc or they have VASS approval? I'm guessing more than likely it was the former.
 
Unfortunately, (or fortunately) there aren't too many standard escorts around these days with factory issued drivelines and braking systems
 
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Re: 2014 changes to the Victorian club permit scheme 2015/03/23 08:13:32 (permalink)
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If the cage has CAMS approval it is permissable.  The RWC side has nothing to do with the dash.  but correct that side intrusion bars are usually where the problem comes from a RWC perspective.
 
Cars already on the scheme are not required to have retrospective engineers certification

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Re: 2014 changes to the Victorian club permit scheme 2015/03/23 09:49:06 (permalink)
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Thanks Gareth.

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Re: 2014 changes to the Victorian club permit scheme 2015/03/23 10:23:37 (permalink)
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To clarify
from reading the regulations my understanding is as follows
 
currently on CPS and cage is CAMS approved = OK
currently on CPS and not CAMS approved then VSI28 applies
New cage on existing cps car or new cps application requires VSI28 and VASS even if CAMS approved
 
VSI28 is where the front leg becomes an issue
 
 
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Re: 2014 changes to the Victorian club permit scheme 2015/03/23 11:30:29 (permalink)
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That is what I had explained to me by the rwc inspector???
For rwc had to meet VS128, and for that it must go through the dash.
I guess it depends on who you speak to, ultimately it's their call and their rwc license.

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