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2014/04/05 20:37:10 (permalink)
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HELP PLEASE

Evening guys and gals, I've got three problems I need help with. The first question is I've borrowed a timing light so I can set the timing in my van correctly but I cannot seem to get a reliable beam. I thought it was broken so I tried it on the falcon and its all good. I tried a different sent of leads with no luck. The second question is I've got the timing reasonably close where the van idles nicely but when I give it more than 1/3 throttle it back fires and runs poorly? It's a 1.6l with a new electronic dizzy, leads and coil. Finally the last question is that my hazard light switch is interfering with my indicators as in sometimes the indicators will not work until I flick on the hazards a few time then they seem to work. If anyone can help me out it would be greatly appreciated.
 
P.s. May have to stick on working on falcons, it seems like I have no dramas changing gearboxes and engines in them :(
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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/05 21:01:09 (permalink)
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    Ok, those swap in electronic conversions that are all over e-bay at the moment for abut $50, is that what you have?  If so I'll bet it is doing what mine did, in that it fires unevenly and makes your car seem like the batteey is flat when you crank sometimes?  swap back to points you'll be better off, then get a Scorcher distributor from Ignition Developments / Performance Ignition 

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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/05 21:46:07 (permalink)
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    I purchased the whole dizzy so I really dont want to buy another dizzy... The car idles fine its just when I give it a bit it will run rough and backfire... Maybe it is firing unevenly but it runs (at idle) as if nothing is wrong...
     
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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/06 00:51:09 (permalink)
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    I had a similar problem with a pushrod Cortina a while back, turned out to be the low tension wire, it was a stock dizzy though....
    Good luck with it Drewdog...............

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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/06 10:05:35 (permalink)
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    if you got the whole distributor thats great, the drop in points replacement kits seem to give grief

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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/06 16:50:08 (permalink)
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    Good advice from gtv6Capri: Original points type, in my 45 years of experience, always are much more reliable and productive than un-known EI add-ons from who knows where. Factory EI are the only reliable upgrade to points.
    (But if you can fit factory original upgrade, always keep the old Kettering System, or spare EI bits in the boot in case of failure if going on a long trip) . My points System in my GTV6 Capri and my XY351 GT have NEVER let me down, as they don't when serviced every 10,000kms.
    Re Timing: a Timing light will never beat DYNAMIC TIMING ON THE ROAD !........keep advancing Dizzy a "smidge" at a time till "pinging" is obvious in top gear at 50 kph with "pedal to the metal". Then retard dizzy a "smidge" or 2 until you barely hear "a ping" or two..... Stop car and tighten dizzy.
    None of this should be done until you know all other tune-up items are right & d/checked.
    Re Hazw..........if it's add-on after-market......remove and re-instate original wiring. If factory as on late Escorts, check ALL your Globes front and rear and make sure they ALL have their own "earth". If all ok. Haz sw is likely to be the culprit.
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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/06 16:52:23 (permalink)
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    If theres something you don't understand, ring Bernie at "4R Motors" on 03-97868187 after 3pm most weekdays, or email me at      agrademechanic@hotmail.com

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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/08 23:13:41 (permalink)
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    If points were so good how come no car is made with them anymore plus virtually every factory car through the 80's went to electronic ignition.

    Advancing a dissy till it pings then back off assumes the mechanical advance curve is correct for application. That is a big assumption.

    Does the dissy have external wires to an ignition module? The backfiring sounds like the trigger is back to front.
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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/09 09:06:31 (permalink)
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    The blinker cct goes through the hazzard light switch, good chance the hazzard switch is the cause.

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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/09 09:17:25 (permalink)
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    spigot can i ask what is the trigger(the rotating ring or the stationary) and how can they be back to front?
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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/09 10:19:34 (permalink)
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    I think the switch is the problem because if I fiddle around with it the indicators will work and hazards will work... So I guess I'll get another one. Also the clip for the speedo cable is broken, am I able to use a little glue or tape to hold it into place for a while? Money is getting scarce at the moment as I need to pay rego and tyres for the falcon real soon. Also I was filing around with the timing and I've gotten rid of the back fire but the on;y way to accelerate through the rev range is to baby the throttle, if I stamp on this she will die. Also there was bubbles coming out between the #2 and #3 cylinder head and the extractors. Looks like butter/sugar caramelising in a pan. I took the muffler off because I suspect it may have a blocked muffler as the exhaust is a bit rusty and has seen better days... I haven't started it yet since I was 8pm at night when I finished and next door has a baby. I haven't checked it yet still since I've got a big uni test in a few days so I've been hitting the books. Also if the exhaust isn't blocked I have no idea why there is bubble coming up, my other lead to not being able to rev up quickly is the carby (32/36) is over fuelling the 1.6 kent.
     
    As always, any help is appreciated.
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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/09 21:31:20 (permalink)
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    Hey vanmansam,
    Caramel bubbles sound like a headache, maybe best to walk away for a while, hit the books for uni and drive there in a mundane but rego'ed falcon in the meantime.... I face the same thing, to work, in a boring as wagon & it's not that bad... 
    The Escort, help on the forum and new engines on gumtree are still always there on the weekends............
    Cheers Drewdog............
    post edited by Drewdog - 2014/04/09 21:38:40

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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/09 22:30:52 (permalink)
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    Here is a few pics to help explain what I'm saying. Also when the engine is about to die it shoots fuel mist  up and out of the carby, I have a feeling this is not normal and the only thing I can think of to stop this is to reduce the idle and/or air-fuel mixture screw... As always any help is appreciated.
    post edited by vanmansam - 2014/04/10 13:48:54

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    Re: HELP PLEASE 2014/04/10 23:35:49 (permalink)
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    SPIGOT: You must not have read where I said..........."Factory EI are the only reliable upgrade to points" just after where I said "well maintained points are always better than unknown after-market EI from who- knows-where".
    Concurrently, "well maintained points" goes hand in hand with like well maintained Vacuum and mechanical advances, etc

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