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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/01/05 08:03:33 (permalink)
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Thanks Terry....................hoping for "no rain", else we'll still come without the Capri, which we hope won't happen.
Knowing how all cars from the seventies and earlier, rusted very easily, I assume mine is very rust-free due to being stored "indoors" most of its life, away from the dreaded rust catalyst called "rain"!
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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/01/06 16:21:22 (permalink)
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Hi Bernie,
The special vehicle stickers and a couple of pages of info from Ford in 1973 showing the numbers are in the mail. Dont worry about payment or anything, its my pleasure.
Cheers,....Ron.

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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/01/06 22:58:04 (permalink)
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Very nice of you Ron; many thanks!
 
Terry tells me space etc is very limited this Aust/Day at Fed Square and no room for my Capri, esp as I'm not a member, so I may take my Capri to Mornington Race Course as some clubs will be there on the day, or we may drive into Fed Square and just park wherever.
 
I see you're home in Brisbane, so guessing you won't be down in Melb ? We're driving up to Labrador late March for 2 weeks stay to enjoy "Dream World" as we do every few years. Love to see your Capri if you think you'll be in Labrador or Surfers.
 
I'd love to know why these 11 "specials" like mine are called "Delete Options Models" other than the fact Stripes and Black-outs were added well after cars were sold, and not on the "line" in Homebush. Do you or anyone know what else was "deleted" please ?
 
Kind regards...............Bernie
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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/01/07 07:51:31 (permalink)
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All GT V6 capri came one way, you had to order them without the bling if it was too lairy for you.  Dealers often ordered them in this form as they were cheaper and they got their workshop people to add the blackouts etc as it upped their profit. 
 "Delete tag" was attached to the right corner of the grill when the car was on the production line (covered by the headlight surround).  It was a piece of thin aluminium written on to tell the production line staff what to leave off, this usually meant no blackout bonnet or grille, no stripes, and re-locate the GT badge to the quarter from the wheel arch.  My Teal Glow still had the Delete tag, half had torn off over the years but it was there. 

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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/07/25 23:50:18 (permalink)
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HI ALL
 
I NEED A NEW CLUTCH KIT FOR A 1972 FORD CAPRI V6 GT MK1......................
WILL SWAP FOR ALMOST ANY OTHER CAR make/model CLUTCH KIT OR OTHER NEW PARTS
FOR YOUR NEEDS BETWEEN 1948 AND 1988, inc some 4WD
THERE'S NOT MANY NEW CONSUMABLES I DON'T HAVE THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS CAPRI MK1 GT V6 CLUTCH KIT I NEED.................
ALSO NEED FOR THIS GTV6 CAPRI..................engine mounts at F &/or rear clutch cable, boot lid, F O R D letters for boot, hockey sticks for boot lid, carby repair kit for DFAV Weber, wet choke Cover, correct wheels, original B&W seat covers or complete seats, door cards, dash electrical switches, crash pad, steering rack, HEATED REAR SCREEN, little oval ford badge for "thresh-hold", heater core,  etc
Thanks for any offers. (haven't forgotten your parts we discussed John)
Bernie
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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/11 20:45:22 (permalink)
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Bump I know w this an old thread but I wonder how many deletes are still out there?As J.R said teal glow now in w.a ,yours Bernie in Vic and mine originally from Adelaide. And mine is ck17mk as I m looking at my letter from Ford. What proof have we got of their only being 11 deletes. This has come of light by a friend in Adelaide that is trying to buy /find his old v6 Capri ..Sorry for can of worms in advance

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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/11 22:32:49 (permalink)
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Hi hotboostgt,
thanks for asking, and you're welcome...................
ronsmallford knows more about it than I do, but from memory, ONLY the CK17ME were the "last eleven" and only these "last eleven" got the 165HP Up-rated "D" Port engine, Up-rated Gearbox and Diff, along with re-enforced Body.   .................."Delete" models were always available for clients who didn't want the "bling" of stripes or black-outs on their GT order.......Ron sent me an official letter from Ford, detailing the "last eleven" with relative info.............hope this helps.

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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/11 22:45:15 (permalink)
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What were the changes to the diff and gearbox?
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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/12 22:50:01 (permalink)
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I believe, from what I was told by those more knowing than me, that the gearbox was much heavier duty by way of bigger close-ratio gears, bigger bearings, and side-shift rods via floor-mounted shift/gate as opposed to earlier standard boxes that were top-loader design with on-board shift/gate and built-in selector rods. The Diff was built with heavier/larger bearings and lower ratio for "longer legs"(higher top-speed)...........maybe Ron, or John or Terry can confirm or correct ?
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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/13 22:50:10 (permalink)
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As I understand it, the only difference with the Mk1 1/2 gearbox was that the 2nd gear ratio was changed and the selecting was changed from the clumsy side rods to the 'top loader' style, no changes to other gears or bearings. Also, the crown wheel and pinion only were changed to 3.09:1 from the standard 3.22:1. I don't believe that their were any other changes to the axles or to the bearings on the axles. Terry

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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/13 23:33:41 (permalink)
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So other than D port heads the driveline is essentially the same as a 72 V6.  Same 3.09 diff, same gearbox ratios, just a better gear selecter.  Is that right?
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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/14 09:46:37 (permalink)
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The australian capri v6 mechanicals were the same for the entire model run (69 to 72). This consisted of oval port 3000cc engine, side linkage gearbox and 3.22 diff.
The eleven "specials" of which only four were sold direct to the public and were marketed by bib stillwells as fully imported capris. (even tho they were assembled at homebush). These consisted of D port engine, same side linkage box but with higher ratio second gear, and same diff but with 3.09 crownwheel and pinion.
The shells for these cars were all assembled in august 72 and so all have the CK17ME body prefix. After that it gets a little tricky as we now have bernies car which has a sep72 plate, mine which has a november 72 plate and Murrays car which has the twin plate system of 1973. All three are noted on the list of eleven from ford.
There are plenty of capris getting around now with these mods that have been fitted at a later date. The blue car in qld thats nearly finished has all these parts. The crownwheel and pinion are available and are an easy fit. The side linkage box can be fitted with the second gear and layshaft gears from the later type 5 box or even fit the type 5 complete which has internal gear shift.
The "specials" claim to fame is that they will be the only australian cars to have dport motors with an austalian prefix to their engine number.    
regards, ...ron.
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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/14 22:11:11 (permalink)
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oh, I thought all cars after Oct 71 got the 3.09 and upgraded 2nd gear. Mine is April 72 and has 3.09, not sure about 2nd gear.
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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/14 22:54:10 (permalink)
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ALL Australian assembled GT/V6s (except the 11 'specials') had the 3.22:1 crown wheel and pinion diff as mentioned in my post above and they did not receive the improved 2nd gear. The changes that you are referring to from October 1971 were only used on the UK version of their 3-litre Capri's. What we call the Mk.1 1/2 or update model, which we here in Australia never received. If, yours is an Australian assembled April 1972 model (ie. CK17xx12345P), then it has had the update 3:09.1 crown wheel and pinion fitted later, or, is it an imported UK model?

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Re: NOV 1972 GTV6 WILD PLUM 165 HP BARN FIND 2014/09/14 22:59:57 (permalink)
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Further, if your Capri is an Australian built one then the chassis plate should actually read CK17MG12345P, where 12345 is the unique sequence number allocated to your Capri. M being the year 1972 and G being the month of April. Cheers, Terry

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