PrissyPotts
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/05 06:18:01
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Hey there
It is the hard gas line that goes into the fuel pump. It has some threading on the gas line. When i start to screw it in the fuel pump (which is the filter, which as you know is attached to the fuel pump) it will not screw in and keeps popping out. I got some teflon tape and I hope i can get it in there. I think the actual hard gas line has a threading issue. :( So unless I can get it to go in there without popping out I don't know what I can do other than get a whole new fuel pump with a new bolt but there is nothing wrong with the bolt on the old fuel pump I really think it is the hard gas line itself that has the threading problem so I might have to get a whole new gas line which is about 100 bucks if I can get it off the carb.
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/05 11:09:45
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$100.00 for a hard line!!!!! bugger me!!!!!!!!!!!mate, do you have a tap & die set? or have a mate that has one? try re-threading it! if you were here mate, I would just give ya one. The only way for this to work right, is when the fittings are true and square to each other!! no substitute! or you WILL have more problems mate. if you have no choice but to buy one,go to a diesel fitter or a hydraulic shop! should be a lot cheaper! I had three brake lines made up,about 1 1/2 to 2 meter's in length, cost me 60 bucks!! thats w/ a heap of bends and all thread fittings on all the ends. Good luck mate! keep me posted. Cheers.
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/05 15:07:16
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hey there
well i got the old fuel pump installed, got the fuel line in tight and she still wouldnt start. so thinking the old fuel pump isn't any good. Now i have to take it off again. She started for a minute then she died so thinking she wasn't getting gas.
when i had the other fuel pump on her she ran fine till that fuel pump started rattling and died on me and i think the reason it died is because it had no filter in it.
i found a fuel pump online that has a fuel filter already on the inside of the canister so i will be ordering that and hopefully get her going again.
makes me quite mad that after all that she still wouldn't stay started. i know it is because she must not be getting enough gas from old fuel pump.
grrrrrrrrrrrr.......
thanks for help. hopefully didn't cross thread the fitting on the metal fuel line messing with it so much. so upset i really want to drive her again.
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/05 15:15:30
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/05 16:30:36
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sorry mate, I dont do ****book,got better things to do!any chance you could put a photo of the fuel pump up for me? by the sounds of it,it's a glass bowl pump!?.later model one's are better!.  [link=file:///E:/my%20kahz/img_0411.jpg]file:///E:/my[/link][link=about:blank]file:///E:/my%20kahz/img_0412.jpg[/link]%20kahz/img_0411.jpg[link=about:blank]file:///E:/my%20k[/link][link=about:blank]file:///E:/my%20kahz/img_0410.jpg[/link][link=about:blank]ahz/img_1011.jpg[/link][link=about:blank]file:///E:/my%20kahz/95315382%20(1).jpg[/link] this is the 2V 250 6cyl in my drag van! note; the manifold is bolted on!,not part of the head!! Cheers mate.
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/06 04:48:42
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yeah i think i know what the new fuel pump failed,, because it had no filter on the inside of the canister. see this car was sitting for 6 months because my mechanic couldn't figure out why it wouldnt start and it was because the rotor wasnt fitting snug on the distributor but anyways yeah i think the new fuel pump got clogged up probably had a lot of junk in the tank after sitting for 6 months, she ran for a few weeks then the fuel pump started rattling. anyways i found a fuel pump online that includes the filter on the inside so im gonna be ordering that and hopefully she will stay started.. right now she tries but won't stay started, i did pour some fuel in the carby and she started for a few seconds than died.  thanks again 
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/06 06:26:44
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okay now i discovered fuel is leaking from the main gasket on the fuel pump. I didn't put any sealer on the gasket and thats probably why, i guess the old fuel pump still works because fuel is coming out of it and leaking at the part that is connected to the engine. I didn't think i was supp to put a epoxy on the gasket so now i gotta get the fuel pump off again and hopefully get her back connected with an epoxy on the gasket so she won't leak. OMG this makes me mad because it was so hard getting that hard fuel line in and now i gotta take if off unless i can disconnect it from the engine without disconnecting it which is doubtful. :(
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/06 13:06:06
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G'day mate,it sounds like your having a lot of trouble for little return!! how about, give me your address and I'll send you one of mine,free! As for the fuel pump you have, I'v never seen on like that before!! The one's we get here in AUST look nothing like that,but the other one's at that shop you sent look a very much the same. Cheers.
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/07 03:12:42
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what do you want to send me? lol well i had a mechanic friend come by and he said although she seems to be getting gas from old fuel pump he thinks i should put a new fuel pump on there. i got the leak to stop but she still won't start. well she did for a minute but backfired so... he also suggested i put a inline fuel filter along with the filter that is on the inside of the canister of the pump. will an inline fuel filter work going to the pump? from the rubber fuel line?? will that work?  
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/07 16:44:05
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I would put an inline filter on the fuel line before the pump. That way the fuel is being filtered before it gets to the pump.
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/07 17:15:04
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okay phoenix
thanks for that reply
i just ordered the inline filter as pictured above and a new fuel pump. and this fuel pump does have a filter on the inside of the canister. the original new fuel pump i put on it did not have the filter on the inside and i didn't know that!!!
thanks alot.
ordered it off ebay, got both for only 24 bux now that is a good deal.
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/11 13:33:00
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okay now I got the fuel pump on and it is def. getting gas.
But it still won't start.
It will for a second then it dies. I really think it is the carburetor. Maybe the automatic choke needs adjusting? I'm really thinking about taking it to a shop that is close by and let them diagnose it. I was with this old car guy today and he cleaned off the plugs, they had a lot of gas on them and we ran down the battery trying to start it up.
I got the battery charged up and she still won't start. The carburetor is brand new and he had adjusted it before and it was running great but thinking it is a missing wire or something.
Have you ever heard of a fuel pump rattling before going bad? just curious. I know the fuel pump was bad because it was leaking fuel.
The old car guy that was trying to help me with it today said it could be the timing chain is loose. God I hope not.
He thinks that is where the rattling came from the timing chain. But the rattling was not that loud and it came from the driver side of the car and the day I drove it and popped the hood, the fuel pump was shaking like crazy and rattling so I hope to God he is wrong.
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/13 08:54:26
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Well i don't know if yall are still around but here is what i think is going on
i can clearly see that the throttle linkage is missing. the carburetor is not working with the gas pedal. i had her towed to a shop that was recommended to me so hoping that is all it is.
i know i heard the rattling from the front top side of the hood and think it is the linkage is missing. you can move the lip of the carb by hand but when you move the gas pedal it does not move the lip of the carb. i think some wire snapped or something in the linkage snapped.
wish me luck that this is all it is.
the old car guy that was looking at my carb i think has a few screws loose himself, he loosed something on my brand new carb, don't think he hurt anything but hopefully this shop that works on classics can get her running again.
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/13 15:44:50
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Good luck, hope you get it sorted
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Re: 65 Ford Falcon won't turn over :(
2014/02/15 07:48:59
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ya the shop says it is the distributor cap and rotor
wondering if the rattle was coming from the cap messing up? or the rotor? any thoughts? I had put a brand new cap on it but it had the old rotor because the new rotor would not fit on old distributor.
he said nothing was wrong with the linkage. hmmmmmm
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