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Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
Hi Fella's,
A mate of mine has a 72 mk1 and has put a 2L pinto engine into it. Apparently if a car comes with the option of a larger engine you wont need an engineers certificate for registration. According to Wikipedia (little bit skeptical) the mk1 came out with the 2L pinto? I know most of them are a 1.3/6 but does anyone know if they did come out with the 2L pinto?
Thanks a lot.
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/08/18 21:49:47
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There were some Mk1 RS2000's imported in the seventies. There are quite a few MK1 conversions running around.
I had a GT1300 with a Pinto in registered in the 70's in NSW. Probably one of the first to be registered that way.
was a good little car had about 165hp Flywheel.
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/08/19 09:02:09
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It is best to have the 2ltr engineered, however its easily done as long as you also have the same brakes and struts from the 2ltr donor car as well (obviously they were uprated compared to standard mk1).
It is a common conversion (as we know mk1 & mk2 are virtually the same anyway) and most engineers will have no trouble signing it off.
I wasn't aware of any mk1 rs2000's brought in to Australia that were registered for road use though? Learn something every day.
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/08/19 17:19:50
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☄ Helpfulby doyouevenrust 2013/08/26 21:35:40
There were 25 MK1 RS2000's imported and sold by Ford Australia in 1975 for homoligation purposes. This was followed by the 25 MK2 RS2000's in 1976.
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/08/19 18:59:19
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Thanks guys,
Does anyone know if there was any structural differences between the standard mk1 and the rs2000 mk1?
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/08/19 21:36:58
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☄ Helpfulby doyouevenrust 2013/08/26 21:35:31
There are differences although not huge. Same basic shell although the RS2000 was based on the Type 49 (?) shell that had a few additional strengtheners here and there (strut tops, strut towers etc). I believe these more related to making the shell stronger for motorsport rather than for the 2L boat anchor as the twin cam and BDA also used that shell.
The RS2000 Mk1 was sold as a production variant in the UK if that helps your cause however, as said above, only 25 Mk1 RS2000s came into Australia for homoligation and I am not sure that any/many of those actually became road cars...not sure.
I should also add that the Mk1 RS2000 in the UK did not come out until 1973 so your 1972 model was not available with a Pinto anywhere in the world.
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/08/26 21:34:46
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Hi Guys, I was looking for an answer to the same question, thanks for confirming this information. On the subject of getting things engineered, does anyone know an Auto Engineer in VIC thats familiar with Escorts as I am indeed looking to drop a 2 litre into a Mk 1 with the aim of making it into something really fun to throw around some twisty roads, and not get hassled by the boys in blue. As a list of models and codes and numbers brought in I found this if it helps anyone in the future: rsmotorsport.com.au/ford-factory-tech/escort-mki (had to take out the www because it got removed as spam?) Thanks.
post edited by doyouevenrust - 2013/08/26 21:39:32
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/08/27 17:03:53
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MK1_Oz
I should also add that the Mk1 RS2000 in the UK did not come out until 1973 so your 1972 model was not available with a Pinto anywhere in the world.
Glad I got my 1970 MK1 mod plated, I was told I didn't have to because of the MK1 RS2000.
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/09/10 19:59:11
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Pretty much the same question as before, but I've got a 1974 mk1 lined up at the moment. It's a got a 2L pinto, rs struts and brakes, 2l diff and a lot of other fancy stuff. The main concern is having to get the 2L engineered. I'm only on my P's so can't drive an engine that needs to be engineered. After talking to a few mechanics who do blue slips (RTA is absolutely hopeless) some say that it could be done without a certificate due to the RS2000. Does anyone know where I could get some sort of paperwork stating that they did make a 2L variant of the Mk1?
Has anyone done this conversion in NSW and had it registered without a certificate?
Thanks a lot,
Jayden.
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/09/10 22:47:22
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/09/11 08:19:51
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What you need to find is a sale brochure from back in the day or some other Ford document listing the MK1 RS2000. Your best bet will be to ttalk to the pommie blokes on turbosport to see who can scan you a copy of something. No point looking for it within Australia as the MK1 RS2000 was never a listed sales variant of the Mk1 (the 25 imports were done as a special thing).
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/09/11 08:53:28
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Got on to the turbosport forums and posted a thread, hopefully get some paperwork. Sent the eBay seller a message asking if he would be able to send me the first page of that document but if worst comes to worst I can just buy a copy of all of it. Would that homogilation paper be sufficient enough to get a blue slip?
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/09/11 09:23:51
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I am not sure that a homologation paper would be any good to you sue to the car never having been complianced in Australia before. Def worth a go however, dont pay for it! I have no doubt that the eBay seller never paid for them himself and is just trying to make a buck. Rude. Most people share this stuff freely. I will upload to file share for you and others.
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/09/11 10:25:51
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Yeah that would be great if you could send a link. I thought that was a bit odd as well.
I will give it a go. Accorrding to NRMA they also have a listed 2dr sedan in a 2.0L so that is a good thing as well. It looks like people have done it before.
Worst case scenario are the engine mounts for the 1600 and 2000 the same? Would it be an easy swap back to the 1600 if need be? Keeping in mind that it has a 2L gearbox as well.
Thanks for all the help so far guys.
Jayden.
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Re: Mk1 Escort - Did they come out stock in 2L Pinto? RTA NSW Engineers Cert???
2013/09/11 12:42:32
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☄ Helpfulby doyouevenrust 2013/09/12 22:16:34
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