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2012/05/17 19:33:48 (permalink)
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Brake / Suspension Clearance

I am installing Mark 1 Capri struts into a Mark 1 Escort with Volvo 4 pots and vented discs.  Clearance between disc and steering rod ball joint is super close.  Can anyone advise of a good solution to this problem?
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/17 21:03:17 (permalink)
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    what rotor did you use? and how close is close, any measurements?
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/17 21:51:34 (permalink)
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    This is a common problem with the escort Volvo conversion and why many use the Capri struts.
     
    Get some pics and we can go from there
     
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/17 22:48:29 (permalink)
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    Matt75

    This is a common problem with the escort Volvo conversion and why many use the Capri struts.

    Get some pics and we can go from there

    Matt


    He says he is using capri struts.....I am running TX3/volvo on 2lt struts and have 6mm clearance.
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/18 07:48:41 (permalink)
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    Right, too many beers!
     
     

     
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/18 11:06:37 (permalink)
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    mine are close as well.  im running capri struts, volvo and tx3, but they seem to be just ok,
     


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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/18 19:12:10 (permalink)
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    Yes, my clearance is 5 to 6mm.  I am using the BMW E30 vented discs.  I am relieved you guys have about the same clearance.  Would a Engineer have any problems with this?
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/18 19:19:28 (permalink)
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    good question ^


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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/18 19:47:26 (permalink)
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    I think you will need minimum 10mm clearence to pass engineers. But don't quote me on that.
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/20 16:02:53 (permalink)
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    e tsc-078

    I think you will need minimum 10mm clearence to pass engineers. But don't quote me on that.


    My engineer never even commented on my brake upgrade years ago when I got my engineers certificate...
    The vented Capri disc was the factory upgrade by Ford and on an Escort 2lt strut it gives about 10mmfor Escorts to the steering arm and about 4 - 6mm to the rubber boot around the tie rod end - depending upon the boot and amount of squash in it....

    I just told the engineer it was the factory option (which it was in England) and he ticked it off....
    Never had an issue with the tie rod boot being that close in years of road and track use.... just be aware when replacing the tie rod that some boots are larger than others....

    Just my 2.2c worth including GST....
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/20 18:48:23 (permalink)
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    na.charrett

    The vented Capri disc was the factory upgrade by Ford and on an Escort 2lt strut it gives about 10mmfor Escorts to the steering arm and about 4 - 6mm to the rubber boot around the tie rod end - depending upon the boot and amount of squash in it....


    I had about 2mm between the tie rod end and the disc (on 2L struts), until I changed the tie rod ends recently, and they now touch.  Looks like I'll have to revert to solid discs to get my clearance back, at least in the short term.  What a nuisance.
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/20 22:44:18 (permalink)
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    I had about 2mm between the tie rod end and the disc (on 2L struts), until I changed the tie rod ends recently, and they now touch.  Looks like I'll have to revert to solid discs to get my clearance back, at least in the short term.  What a nuisance.

     
    Why do you think I designed my own vented brake kit



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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/23 18:56:42 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the feedback fellas.  My reading of the ADR indicates that the 10mm clearance is not absolute, but discressionary.  They say "recommended clearance of 10mm".  So I figure it is the certifying engineers call.  I think he may be prepared to deviate slightly from the 10mm.  In any event, my suspension is not fully set up and aligned at the moment, and as I have adjustable strut tops the clearance may change for the better (I hope).
    If I need to go back to solid discs, can anyone advise me if the TX3 discs being used by many have the wheel stud drillings to suit the Escort 4 x 108 pcd, or do these need re-drilling?
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/24 14:02:02 (permalink)
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    I am just doing this at the moment.  The TX3 slotted rotors (DBA101S) use the same hub mount PCD as escorts I am led to believe.    
     
    Wozzah recomended the use of locating rings to ensure the rotors are located correctly.
     
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    Re:Brake / Suspension Clearance 2012/05/25 20:43:25 (permalink)
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    The laser discs DBA101s need the holes enlarged slightly (about 1-2mm) as the pcd is not quiet correct, just finished doing it myself

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