I'm sorry, but I just don't see how a 30 year old leaf spring rear end can be better or "safer" than a proper 4-linked axle.

whooligan

Unfortunately, this is the sign of the times.....all I can say is buy yourself a push bike, become a tea-totalling, vegetarian, non-smoking, anti-drug taking, "working family" man and life will become rosy again......ummm, sounds like a certain "land of the free" about 200 years ago, and we all know how that place ended up....flat broke and sheite scared!

oi!
i ride a bike, dont drink/smoke/take drugs, but do eat meat. what of it?
 

Touche  like a rusty ol bucket.But the issue lies in the modification of pre existing suspension components in older cars/ one offs and hot rods. You must admit people only modify their suspension to 4-6 link to perform comparable to their engine mods. Nobody is going to six link their side valve Anglia (example only) for safety reasons? 

Mk1 Lotus

No They probably won't.

But this comes back to my earlier question regarding accidents you've attended, as a percentage of accidents you see modified cars would be involved in how many? 1%? 10%?
It couldn't possible be a high percentage so why not spend the time and money on driver training so the idiot in what ever unmodified car doesn't clean up the famliy in the what ever wagon?

As far as the burn outs, street racing etc the stance is clear so if you get caught tuff. But this is a massive over reaction to a problem that bearly exists, if your talking road safety.  

Well said and agree 100%.

Well said fehlbie.
My thoughts exactly, but you put the words together better than I could.

Were probably a tad out of touch with the real issue that faces the modified car scene at present with the proposed and almost legislated changes to the rules for modified cars.
 
The real point of concern is that the new system will see almost anyone within the trade able to obtain a qualification to pass modifications on light vehicles...that is anyone who can afford a $2800pa mandatory insurance premium, $25000 personal indemnity excess and a $10000 joint liability excess...not to mention a scheme exit cost of 7 years worth of premiums, all payable on exit.
 
This is a double whammy for the current signatory group as they must still hold the same insurance seperately for their private/non registered vehicle engineering work. Insurances they privately hold cover the same things that the mandatory RTA insurance covers with nowhere near the excess or other running cost liabilities. Effectively the RTA are forcing new scheme participants to pay twice for insurance.
 
I currently hold sufficient qualification to apply and be accepted a cert IV trade certificate...not to mention many many shady characters with almost limitless supplies of cash that hold the same qualification. We are faced with a situation where any shady character with cash and a cert IV can enter the program....no uni degree in engineering required. If I was to be selfish...this could be a great thing, but in reality it will result in the biggest level of risk we have ever seen(post signatory scheme introduction)as the new scheme is dollar driven with little regard for safety.
 
After all this...the rules for modifications wont be changing very much...but the people that will be able to sign off the mods will be changing.
 
Most of the current highly qualified signatories cant afford to enter the program. The cost of an engineers report will likely head into the $2000+ range....out of most enthusiasts range of justification.
 
All this is due to come into effect on the 1st of October...very cunningly delivered by the RTA under covert conditions.
 
The best thing that could happen is the scheme be suspended pending a thorough investigation by industry professionals...and qualified professionals at that.
 
If the new system gets in we are screwed...not by restrictions on mods but by the costs we will incur.... and the dangerous cars that cashed up shady characters can afford to have passed by their cashed up shady mates with authorisation to pass their cars.
 
The RTA are no longer providing a service....they are a business that is hungry to generate income...the personalised and custom number plate system is proof of this, not to mention what we are now looking at with the new modified vehicle scheme.
 
Laurie, the new scheme will be your worst nightmare if the current one gives you headaches
 
Cheers,
Phil.

I agree Phil and Fehlbie and Peter(and whoever else) but it is the element of car builders/modifiers that over power vehicles that came out with asthmatic engines and replace them with blown/ turbo V8's etc. This is the element the "revenue raisers" complainants should be targeting with their barbs. I am just one of the people that have to "Police" these regulations.(Plus I am one of the Highway Patrol that know what I am looking at Peter) Please remember I own a modified vehicle built to an engineers certificate. I also know that people Engineer shop to get certain improvements past the keeper so to speak. People modify their Older cars to go faster,stop and handle while driving that vehicle faster be it on the track or a blast up the old road.(Yes Fehlbie I have been on club runs 'nuff said) People who think that these mods are to run down to the corner shop for a bottle of milk or church on Sunday are dreaming.  

Any news on this one Phil?