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Vented disks Clearance issues
Hi all, Fitted my vented discs to my MK2 2L struts and noticed some clearance issues with the tie rod ends. What am I doing wrong here? I thought it was a bolt on replacement just remove the back plates as they foul the thicker disc. TIA Emil  
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/02/01 10:09:03
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Where did you buy the kit from? May be ask them if they have had any issues. If you had capri struts you could space the steering arm a bit.
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/02/01 12:02:07
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/02/01 19:03:11
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Oh Bugger, Does that mean I have to run Solid discs?
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/02/01 22:08:33
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You can machine a mm or 2 of the back of the hub, that should do the trick. Caliper spacing should still be close enough 
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/03/01 11:58:46
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Thanks Phil,
I am thinking now of getting some alloy hubs now , So I will mount up and check clearance.
Wont waste money machining these old hubs.
Rgds
Emil
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/03/01 18:06:27
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NOT CORRECT - You can run the standard Gp1/2.8i vented disc with the standard Aussie 2Lt Struts... They do come close to the tie rod end dust boot, but mine do not touch...(miss the dust boot by 2-3mm and more than 8mm clear of the tie rod end....
I have been running standard hubs, with the Gp1/2.8i vented discs for over a decade now and have never had an issue, and having built the struts for the rally car doing the same again I can tell you they DO FIT...
I run the standard hubs, but if you are running alloy hubs or other hubs then that may be what is causing the issues.... Someone else recently on this forum had an issue with the alloy hubs from memory...
PS - WRONG advice is my pet hate on forums such as this, and it can lead to spending too much money on things not neccesary or just plain wrong... I have been got before (And NO Scorpion Strut Tops are not even close to fitting an Escort let along a bolt on job! and NO Mazda wheels are 110mm PCD not 108mm PCD and do NOT fit Escorts!!!!)
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/03/01 18:57:35
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Picture tells a thousand words... to me they look like they are touching... but you seem to know what your on about... [:-(]
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/03/01 19:09:49
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Emil,
It looks like you have new tie rod ends fitted, it is possible that they are externally larger around the ball joint. It might be worth taking one off and heading to the parts shop to see if different brands of tie rod ends are different in external size.
Cheers,
Phil.
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/04/01 20:52:59
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are these smcka's disks?? when i installed mine they didn't touch (which it looks like yours are)
but they were damn close... still haven't melted the rubber though. been on the car for over 12 months now.
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/05/01 11:28:38
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No not smcka's
Picked them up locally in Perth.
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/05/01 19:02:53
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Emil,
It looks like you have new tie rod ends fitted, it is possible that they are externally larger around the ball joint. It might be worth taking one off and heading to the parts shop to see if different brands of tie rod ends are different in external size.
Cheers,
Phil.
phil may be correct, but the tie rod ends look identical to the ones on my mk2, although the actual rubber boots look abnormally oversized... if they turn out to be the right ones then the boot may just be too big (maybe different brands use different rubbers not expecting oversized disks to be put next to them) so may even be worth going through "the box of spares" at your shed or the local mechanic and getting some different rubbers that fit??
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/05/01 19:06:00
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Originally posted by na.charrett
and NO Mazda wheels are 110mm PCD not 108mm PCD and do NOT fit Escorts!!!!)
they do, but in a "dodgey backyard" sense. because if there steel rims then the escort studs will fit through the holes, just off center. and its not recommended simply because it was bend studs in a slight outwards direction i drove around (before car was registered) for quite a while with an RX4 steel rim, due to having a flat tyre and no spare.
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RE: Vented disks Clearance issues
2011/07/01 01:34:05
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Sterling that is NOT fitting - that is just plain stupid putting that much extra stress on the only 4 bolts holding on your wheel.... Wheel studs do not like being bent and can fail...
I have been in 2 Fords over the years when they have shed a front wheel - neither were mine, and both were low speed thankfully - One immediately after getting off the freeway and feeling the vibration and telling the driver to pull over - which he was doing when the wheel literally overtook us... NOT FUN...
Back on the subject - does only the boot hit - or the tie rod end too ?
If only the boot, then I would look around for a set of new boots from a suspension specialist. If the tie rod end itself - then either you need to look at the hubs, or if standard Mk2 Escort, then the discs origin, or as a last resort then see if the Chinese are making bigger tie rod ends than the Poms used too...
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