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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/05/06 00:54:21
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Daz can I organise to meet up & I will bring my 2 sets & do the comparison because I believe that 1 set are the same as the units you have but I am not positive. By the way Daz have you seen the latest edition of Street Machine because it has a feature story in it of Bill's new 1957 Fairlane in it. Sure I will dig out the invoice & let you know what they cost.
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/09/06 21:38:42
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No worries Kev, Have left my contact number on Perthcapri for ya. I'll grab a copy of Street Machine asap
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/12/06 23:57:48
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Kev I just took my springs out and the free length is 270mm which gave a hub to guard height of 290mm. Uniform coil pitch of 46mm so not progressive. Hope that helps.
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/06/14 23:20:30
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Steve thanks for the info the set I believe I will be using are 255mm as they sit on the bench are also not progressive but I have not had these springs in the car so I have no idea what ride height that will give but the spring wire is alot heavier than the other set I have of which some one has cut & was very very low.
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/06/15 15:27:19
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If you give me the dimensions I can calculate the relative deflection and give you a ball park figure. Just need wire dia and pitch and confirm that overall OD is 135mm.
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/06/15 17:43:30
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Ok will get the dimensions tonight, do you happen to know a guy named Lew who owns a XT GT Falcon ??
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/06/18 12:49:07
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Steve spring wire is 15mm & coil pitch is variable being 45mm to 36mm of which does make them progressive.
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/06/18 22:52:41
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g'day Kev No I dont know anyone called Lew.
For the springs I used the manuals load of 320kg per spring and did all the calcs to text book spring theory. The books spring rate is 21.8 kg/cm so at 320 kg that gives 146mm deflection. This makes the compressed length 174mm.
For my lowered set I calculated a compressed length of 126mm.
Thats a difference of around 2 inches so my guess is that my lowered set was lowered by 2 inches.
For your set I did 2 calcs, one for each pitch to get an average. I just assumed the whole spring was constant pitch.
For a pitch of 45mm it gives a deflection of 50mm so thats a compressed length of 255-50 = 205mm.
For a pitch of 36mm it gives a deflection of 63mm so thats a compressed length of 255-63 = 192mm.
So for variable pitch the result will be somewhere between these values.
Both are higher than what I calculated for the standard springs (174mm)so my guess is that your springs will be too stiff and the car will sit higher than standard V6.
I will be putting my standard set in on the weekend to take some measurements so I will be able to get an idea of the accuracy of the calcs. Sorry its not good news.
BTW freo springs said they will reset my originals for $30 each so am going to try that (which is why I need to refit and measure)
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/06/19 22:03:21
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Steve thanks for the info I will also put these springs into the car when it goes back together & I will let you know what ends being the height when installed & like you if it is too high I will take them back out & get them reset.
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/06/22 12:44:56
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Hi Kev I put my longer springs in and turns out they're not standard. They gave a hub to guard height of 320mm which is around the same as the kings lowered specs. The compressed length when installed with full car weight on it is 150mm. I adjusted the load in the formula to get them to match and re-checked yours with the same load. Came out somehwere between 182 to 197mm.  Old Springs that are too low - notice very little travel left  New lowered Springs - more travel
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/06/22 23:25:09
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Good info Steve would it be ok to come over for visit after work to have a look.
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/06/23 23:38:26
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No probs to have a look but might be best to leave it a couple of weeks. The struts are back out for the inserts, bushes etc and its not at home so wont be back together for a while.
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/01/07 21:22:07
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quote: Originally posted by hotboostgt
Thanks can ask waht you paid for a set ?
Sorry for late reply but I paid $460.00 for the Koni front strut inserts & I picked up a pair of Kmac adjustable strut tops today from the Quokka.
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RE: Need Advice for Suspension Upgrade
2010/01/07 21:56:58
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Geez $460 good price
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