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Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
Test drove my car for about 1km last night after i fixed my venturi problem and as i turned around and did a U-ey i gave it a bit and the axel snapped.
Is it as easy just to take the tyres off, unbolt the 4 bolts and slide the axel out or will there still be half the axel left in the diff? if so how do i remove?
I' going away this weekend and before i go im dropin it off to someone to fix my list of defects before i get a pink slip on Wednesday which is a few days before it goes into a blue slip.
Rhys.
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/23 12:29:15
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They usually snap right at the diff spline, meaning you can at least remove the diff head. Pull both axles out and have a look / compare / post a pic.
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/23 13:32:06
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So take the diff centre out and have a look?
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/23 15:20:48
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Well everything has to come out but you may as well start with the busted axle (up on stands, remove rear wheels and slide under chassis rails as axle stand insurance, undo the 4 axle retainer bolts, pull out axle - may need some encouragement with a slide hammer / sledgehammer chained to the axle flange and swing away from car / whack a SPARE brake drum bolted onto the axle flange backwards), then the good axle (by now you'll know how much broke off), then the diff head.
Then remove the bit of axle from the diff head...
Your timeline looks tight... I'd be allowing a realistic 4-6 hrs for the whole job if you're a first-timer, assuming you have a replacement axle with a good wheel bearing at hand.
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/23 19:00:27
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you can sometime get speaker magnet and slide it up some pvc pipe up the axle housing and get the broken section out
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/23 22:07:29
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Yes some axles can be proper buggers to get out, I've usually succeeded by replacing the four flange bolts with some long ones, then turn the axle 45 degrees so that when you undo the bolts evenly they push against the back of the flange.
Magnet idea is clever...but I'd be checking carefully that all the axle metal is accounted for when it comes out!
Robert
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/24 00:36:49
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As someone who broke 4 axles in about 18 months a few years ago....
You will need to pull both axles and the diff centre out. Most likley you will need to punch out the splines out of the centre (magnet will almost certainly not work), and check it did not take out the side bearing as they tend to tear as well as Shear and expand as they tear through the splines within the bearing.... Some have a weaker (narrower) point machined into the axle just back from the splines, and if Sheared here your centre will be fine)
Make sure you remove all the oil from the housing as there will be little bits of metal on the bottom of the housing. Replace your diff oil too... (or filter it through a coffee filter if a cheap unpleasant individual like I was and the oil is relatively new)
Providing your centre has not been damaged, it should all go back together nicely and quickly... Try to use an axle that came from the same side to replace teh broken one, as they are stressed over time to a certain twisting and putting one in a "wrong" side will untwist it and it is weaker then...
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/24 11:47:06
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Ok, i pulled the axles out nd both were fine.. so then i pulled the centre and there was 2 cogs broken and laying in the diff housing.
So now i need a new diff [:x)]
Going to Newcastle this weekend and need a new diff so if anyone has got one for sale that would be awesome.
Rhys
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/24 16:38:02
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About time you broke something, I have a 3.54-1 diff i rebuilt with a new center pin, with a little weld to stop any movement around the sun gears.
I want around $300 for it, because i have not found any std Escort diff centers for a while.
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/24 19:35:56
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i got a broken diff off my mate the same as you described with the 2 broken sungears i just cut 2 pieces of 8mm steel to slot in there and welded them along the gears to the piece of steel, i haven't used it yet so i'm sure how strong it would be but if you can't track anything down might be worth a go ? if you don't mind a locker 
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/24 20:18:02
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Pick'nPayless at Blacktown have a 3.54 but they want $350 for it drum to drum. You might be able to talk 'em down a bit, but I couldn't
Robert
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/24 21:05:09
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as for the magnet not working, it has and does work not all the time but defferntly worth a shot, you have to get creative when you have minispool and you cant get a punch in or anything to "bash" the broken piece of axle out
if its just broken the spider gears pull the 2 spiders out that DONT have the splines for the axles in them and weld the other to back up, provided the crownwheel and pinion are fine just weld it back up the centre is usless for anything else.
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/26 23:31:31
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I have a spare std centre spool(planet gears/carrier)in good nick, pulled it out to fit Quaife LSD
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/27 14:03:49
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OK sounds sad ---you can get a 4 planet geared diff head and you can change just the Carrier if your ratio is hard to find ------they a lot stronger than then the standard one-- the planet gears they can be replaced ( you know that) there are a number of fords that use the same size planet gears--- i think zephyr's and transit vans & Mark 2/3/4/5/ FORD CORTINA's but its been a while ---------
when setting the crown wheel and Pinyin gap use some ( led wool) led wire or led sheet --- say 1/8 inch wide and 1mm thick led has the advantage of loading the mess -- - and wound it in the crown wheel and Pinyin mess and use a micrometer ---say have 2 Tho gap ---watch out for the mess on the
2 Axel's bearing on the Carrier they can have to much mess or not enough ---when adjusting the crown wheel mess ---
bearing blue should be used on the crown wheel as well ---
I welded a bolt in the diff housing and bolted a gear box magnet in the floor of the diff housing IT works
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hope that helps
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RE: Snapped Axels, How to remove? URGENT!
2010/04/29 09:58:21
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Ok, sorry for the late reply. I've just moved house and haven't got the internet on yet [:(!]. I ended up picking up a 3.9 for $150. I think im going to have to invest in a LSD. I keep sayin it and sayin it but it's going to cost me more n more money the longer i wait.
Im locking the one i broke so i have a back up next time somthing like this happens [:x)]
Cheers Rhys
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