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understeer
hey guy ive decovered the escort is understeering i learen't this at the track day we just had so it was ticked me off i couldnt go as hard
im about to purchace adjustable lowe control arms off smcka and strut brace im running coil overs with 220lb springs and koni adjustable shocks and adjustable strut tops
how much degrees camber and caster do i really want???
i think im in need of some decent semi slicks but it was just crazy the understeer
also considering a quick rack?? they good??
chris
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RE: understeer
2010/04/13 17:25:07
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What size sway bar have you got? Hope you haven't got a locked diff...??
What motor are you running?
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RE: understeer
2010/04/13 17:36:04
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I just put a strut brace and a quickrack on and it's made a huge difference. i recommend them both [:x)]
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RE: understeer
2010/04/13 18:08:26
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Originally posted by whoppa
hey guy ive decovered the escort is understeering i learen't this at the track day we just had so it was ticked me off i couldnt go as hard
im about to purchace adjustable lowe control arms off smcka and strut brace im running coil overs with 220lb springs and koni adjustable shocks and adjustable strut tops
how much degrees camber and caster do i really want???
i think im in need of some decent semi slicks but it was just crazy the understeer
also considering a quick rack?? they good??
chris
Get yourself some decent rubber before you spend a cent on anything else. If your tyres are crap it will still understeer even with all that fancy pants stuff under it!
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whoppa
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RE: understeer
2010/04/13 19:01:57
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i wish i had a locked diff lol..
but no
umm its an adjustable sway bar thicker than standard not sure on the rating. but yeh need some decent tyres
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RE: understeer
2010/04/13 19:09:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Gdub
quote:
Originally posted by whoppa
hey guy ive decovered the escort is understeering i learen't this at the track day we just had so it was ticked me off i couldnt go as hard
im about to purchace adjustable lowe control arms off smcka and strut brace im running coil overs with 220lb springs and koni adjustable shocks and adjustable strut tops
how much degrees camber and caster do i really want???
i think im in need of some decent semi slicks but it was just crazy the understeer
also considering a quick rack?? they good??
chris
Get yourself some decent rubber before you spend a cent on anything else. If your tyres are crap it will still understeer even with all that fancy pants stuff under it!
I agree with GDub, upgrade your tyres before spending money on other bits. Rhys
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RE: understeer
2010/04/13 20:22:45
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Wouldn't you want a quick rack if it's over steering, not under steering?
Apart from new tyres, go for a standard width sway bar and double the spring rating on the front.
Lockers are good when you want some rear wheel steering.
You just need to have some control with the loud pedal when you wish to stop turning.[88]
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whoppa
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RE: understeer
2010/04/14 16:07:06
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yeh well i dont mind doing a lill bit of rear wheel steering haha
when i can get it... poo single spinner lol..
i want a quick rack cuz i find im turning the wheel to much into a corner having to do to much hand work....
i think tyres r in need...
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RE: understeer
2010/04/14 18:41:14
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.. Also, a locker will only make your understeer worse until you can get it to over steer, neither of which will give you quick circuit times
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whoppa
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RE: understeer
2010/04/14 19:18:57
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but fun circuit times haha
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RE: understeer
2010/04/15 07:21:12
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having never run my escort around a track, but just taking info learned from gokarts, I would have thought with the adjustable strut top you already have, to dial in maximum caster about 2 degrees of negitave camber. a antidive kit with tripple clamps ro double width clamps(or both) would be a good place to start also as it should keep you steering geomatry more constant under braking as well as slightly stiffen up the front end of the chassis.
Strut brace will also stiffen up the fron end further.
I may be wrong hear also but if youahve tires that are the same grip level front and rear, then but on griper tires, I would not expect this to change the ballance of the car, just over all grip level, however this may not be totaly corect when factoring in a single spinner diff.[x2x]
Also, dont underestamate the importance of having the rear end spring rates/swaybar matched corectly with the front as they need to work together.
Like i said at the start thou, this is just taking info learned from karting and may not always apply when there is supention involved.[%]
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RE: understeer
2010/04/15 13:01:09
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From reading this link
http://www.houseofthud.com/cartech/swaybars.htm
I would say a way to fix you proplem would be to either reduce the size of the rear sway bar or to increase the size of the front bar. Also negitive camber wouldn't go astray.
(disclamer: I know nothing about real world effects of bigger sway bars on Escorts)
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RE: understeer
2010/04/15 14:37:51
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How big is the bar on the front. 22mm max.
Get rid of the one on the back.
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whoppa
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RE: understeer
2010/04/15 18:22:14
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i dont have a back one...
but i do need new bushes in the back and rear shocks... mine didn't pass the pedders test..
im getting adjustable lower control arms to maximise the camber and so on...
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RE: understeer
2010/04/15 18:36:58
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New cars dont pass the Pedders test...nothing does[;^)]
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