TCAs....rose joint vs bush

Can the informed tell me why somebody would choose an adjustable TCA with a rose joint rather than one with the usual bush??? Is it that the rose joint is more predictable and provides better feel???

but why???????????????

Burton's do rose jointed ones cheaper than bushed!!?

Do roses have a shorter life span also?

is that really right Inferno???? You cannot use rose joints in the rain!!!!!!!!??

What are your thoughts DannyM?

Mine will be a dedicated tarmac car so I can get around the road rules on that one. just need somebody to confirm or disagree that wet ruins rose joints.

Also nobody has actually stated the benefit (other than bling) of rose over bush...........

Cheers Phil. Might go rose jointed and perhaps find some of those lil rubber booties to put on them....just have to decide who to buy them from......so many choices but all seem to be pommie

good point jp

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Originally posted by Mickas

What are your thoughts DannyM?

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The first question needs to be asked what class do you intend to run in and are they legal for that class as they are out for Imp/Prod and alot of other classes except sports sedans. The other question is why do you need them as there are lots of ways to get camber as I've run as high as 8 degrees of negative without them as it can be done. But that said if the rules for my class allowed me to I'd be running them as it does provide a much more positive location and there would be a definite benefit. But it must be said a lot of the TCA's out there are basically junk as they start with a cheap qulaity TCA and cut the end off and weld a threaded plug in and then screw a cheap and nasty spherical joint in which will then intern put more load on the poor quality ball joint on the outer end.
If you want them to last you will need to be using a decent quality joint preferably a 1/2" chrom-moly and it alone will cost you at least $100 or more before you screw it into you're new modified TCA. Most of the arms you see out there that are around the $200 mark will have both a a cheap TCA and joint so don't expect them to last as they wil start rattling before they ever would have with a bush. If you want somethng that will last you need something that is made from a genuine Ford arm with a decent teflon lined chro-moly joint and it should last without a boot as the teflon liner will keep most of the moisture and grit away from the contact area of the joint. You will see this in the better qulaity arms from Gartrac, WWRS, Historic Rallysport etc.
As I said havea read of the rules because it will either say the they can be modified with spherical joints which means you have to modify a standard TCA, if it says TCA's are "Free" which some classes have get an TCA fabricated wit ha spherical joint at both ends which in the long run will be the most economical

Danny