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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/26 18:01:26
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thats most likely the problem.
the air powered bleeder did nothing.
the gavity drip bleed did nothing.
how exactly do you bleed a master on a bench vice? i dont want to damage it.
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/26 21:45:32
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Just grip it in the vice. If you dont want to damage the housing you can sandwich some alloy strips in there. When you are happy with it grab a decent screw driver to push the plunger in with. Fill the container up, hold 2 fingers over the outlet's and push the piston to bled out the fluid *careful it will spray, so use a rag to cover it maybe* be sure when push ing and releasing the plunger go slow. And make sure you keep fingers blocking the holes when releasing the plunger , so it dont suck the air in. Probably use half a bottle or when you think you are happy. Then dont remove your fingers from the holes until you screw the pipes in first then bolt it to the booster.
Then do the whole system again just to be sure. I am pretty sure you WILL have success this time.
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/26 22:50:13
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alright cheers buddy, ill give it a go 2moro arvo probably.
need to sober up and get some sleep for work 2moro!! [:x)]
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/27 20:36:25
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well i got the pedal alot better, this involved,
bench vice master bleed, 10-15 minute drip (gravity) bleed.
then another 10-15 minute drip bleed just for good measure,
still not happy with it i had a third go at adjusting the rear brakes.
got them tight as f*ck! and now the pedal feels something decent!
still not amazing to be honest, but definately a decent improvement.
but yeah cheers for the replies guys, and if the inspectors still not happy i will have to kick his ass!
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/27 21:29:24
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Have you replaced the hoses?
I am always cautious after doing brakes, never happy with the pedal till you drive it and get some heat into them.
Did I read you did the pads? wait till they bed in to give you a pedal if thats the case.
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/27 22:10:09
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na the pads are second hand, i bought the whole kit second hand.
still plenty of meat left so didn't bother.
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/27 22:26:01
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just drive it for a while as long as it stops. i think the problem is you have driven another car....
after getting out of anything then back in an escort they will feel funny
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/27 23:07:29
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my pedal feels spongy, but they stop the car well.
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/27 23:12:15
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Hey did you put the shims on the back of the pads? Hope you know what i mean? Some time if you put the old original shims back on the pads, the shims can be warped which in turn pushes the pistons back in the calipers, so when you put the foot down it will be spongy as you have to push them further. Found that out the hard way.
grant may be right you may be now over thinking the issue.
Also old pads on clean cut surfaces wont feel crash hot either or any non mated surface...Just drive them and bed them in and see how it goes...
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/28 06:43:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Mickas
Hey did you put the shims on the back of the pads? Hope you know what i mean? Some time if you put the old original shims back on the pads, the shims can be warped which in turn pushes the pistons back in the calipers, so when you put the foot down it will be spongy as you have to push them further. Found that out the hard way.
grant may be right you may be now over thinking the issue.
Also old pads on clean cut surfaces wont feel crash hot either or any non mated surface...Just drive them and bed them in and see how it goes...
righto, well it stops the car acceptably now. so i might just wait and see how it feels after i get back from sfs. (if i do go)
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/28 20:32:54
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well had a MASSIVE stroke of luck today.
looking back and reading kizza & mickas's's reply, "check the extension linkage for play"
i checked it a second time (was able to have a better look this time because the engine was cold [:x)] )
saw nothing,
so i thought maybe if i whack a shim spacer type thingo in between the pedal and shaft, it would start pedal feel earlier. (mine did nothing till about a third the way down)
so a look at the pedal made me notice, the shaft that holds the bar in, was there, but the shaft wasn't connected???
f*ck knows why this was apart.
so i pulled out the bar and split pin, put the shaft in properly, reassembled, and hizaaa! brake pedal feels mint now! heaps of resistance! so stoked with this.
its impossible for the inspector to not count "spongey pedal" as done.
so now its going back to hastings Saturday for an exhaust. then thats everything.
this took me a bit of time, due to money so i hope he doesnt do another full thorough check and find something else.
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/28 22:12:08
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woohoo  [%]
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/28 22:56:00
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Well done mate. Glad I was of some help.
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/29 11:32:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Sterling
well had a MASSIVE stroke of luck today.
so a look at the pedal made me notice, the shaft that holds the bar in, was there, but the shaft wasn't connected???
I would say go buy a Lotto ticket, but I think you just used up all your luck for this lifetime....[:u] Cheers James
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RE: spongey brake pedal
2010/01/29 18:46:04
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quote:
Originally posted by jimmyd
quote:
Originally posted by Sterling
well had a MASSIVE stroke of luck today.
so a look at the pedal made me notice, the shaft that holds the bar in, was there, but the shaft wasn't connected???
I would say go buy a Lotto ticket, but I think you just used up all your luck for this lifetime....[:u]
Cheers
James
hahaha yeah, so true
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