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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 11:47:29 (permalink)
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The escort in question isn't my cup of tea. I think the rims are just a little over the top and given the choice I wouldn't buy the car.

The bloke I bought my Mk1 4 door off has found himself another Mk1 2 door and he's planning to put a Commodore V6 into it with a fibreglass tilt front. Not my cup of tea either but good luck to him.

The thing that I like most about owning/restoring/modifying/playing with an old Ford is that it's my car and I can do what the wife let's me do with it.



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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 12:00:45 (permalink)
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In my opinion, they probably do it becuase it appears to easier and cheaper - a perception.

Pretty much like everything today a lot of people just don't understand how good we have it. You have the world at your finger tips - ebay, the internet, email, mobile phones etc. You can contact anyone anywhere in the world and get a fast response. There are more people producing reproduction and new parts that can deliver to your door in a matter of days from across the other side of the globe. Scroll back the clock 20 or even 15 years ago and to get parts to do conversions like a YB was a damn sight harder and far more expensive - and yet people did it. Just think about doing any conversion or sourcing any part you may need tomorrow if the internet suddenly disappeared.

So i really think it is a misinformed perception of what is easier or cheaper. At the end of the day anyone who goes down a conversion route will spend a lot of money re-engineering the vehicle to cope with additional power and different driveline. And if they need to buy performance parts they will probably end up buying them on the net from OS companies anyway.




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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 12:06:13 (permalink)
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Geetee,

Thats what i was trying to say [:I][;^)][%]

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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 12:22:15 (permalink)
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Ty i actually think you said it quite well yourself!




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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 19:43:15 (permalink)
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....I think the whole what's cheaper argument is a waste of time really. How can a call be made on the assumption of another person's disposable income?

I think the deal is not price, but rather personal choice. The owner of the Mk 1 obviously could afford a Cossie....but didn't. I'd hazard a guess by saying the owner of this particular car could probably afford to put what ever the hell he wanted between the shock towers. Right or wrong....his names on the ownership papers, so what ever is said here means four tenths of F%$k all.

It's like having a got a mate for liking fat chicks. Most of us disagree with the decision, some of us have probably tried it, but in the end it's his funeral. Personal choice.....one of the last freedoms we enjoy these days.

I like it because it is different.....and I qualify it by asking anyone to show me a similar car....as in same engine, same paint style, same rim style, same interior style etc etc etc.

Like I said.....it's different, and that's why we are all having our 2cents worth.....imagine the response it's going to get in the magazine![;^)]

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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 19:49:34 (permalink)
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LOL!!! Lots happening on here..
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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 22:06:25 (permalink)
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And while Danny seemed to pull the pin on hand grenade before throwing it into this thread and then quietly leaving it to rage along without him he did make a good point about Classic Ford magazine.

These days it seems that it is a lot less "Classic" and not very "Ford".


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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 22:19:11 (permalink)
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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 22:49:00 (permalink)
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I have to agree with that, SR20's aren't very classic and clearly not ford so what they are doing in classic ford mag is beyond me. But im not the editor so eh...

I dont have a problem with any engine conversions, people can do what they like. What i dont like is those people that do the conversion and then are like "My escort has x much power and i only spent $Y. Yous have 1/2x power and you spent $Yx3. You should have done this conversion"

Maybe that person didn't want to do the conversion cause his vision of his car wasn't that. And yes your car might be faster but racing has class's. An SR20 escort would be in a different class than one with a bog stock 2L.

Personly i don't like this Mk1 i think the wheels are horrid and the engine doesn't belong. If it was for sale and i had the money just lying around i wouldn't buy it.
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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 23:24:28 (permalink)
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Classic Ford Magazine not 'Ford'.....bugger me what it is then? It features only Classic Fords.....it's advertisers cater specifically for Classic Ford owners.....and the whole orientation of the magazine is aimed at covering the entire Classic Ford scene.

I once saw a Studebaker and a Sunbeam Talbot in there....maybe that's what the reference is. I guess if you think Classic 'FORD' isn't very 'FORD' orientated....your could always read.....err hang on....Retro Ford covers the same......ummmm Street Fords only cover Falcons......ahhhh Performance Ford maybe....nope they follow Street Ford...........

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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/03/12 23:54:59 (permalink)
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Well unless i am totally confused or have had my head stuck up my arse my i could have sworn that that -

a) the Rover V8
b) Mazda rotary
c) Toyota twin cam
d) Nissan SR20
e) Vauxhaul XE 2.0
f) Fiat Twin Cam
g) Honda S2000
h) etc. etc. etc. (insert non Ford engine here)

Are not FORD! Not even the part-FORD owned Mazda ****el. And let's not even bother getting into Subaru Impreza running gear.

Yet they all seem to feature in a FORD magazine a hell of a lot.

Maybe a name change to

Classic Half Ford
Classic Fords powered by whatever you had under the bench in your shed
Classic Fords being different
Classic Bitsa
Crassic Frord (Jap version)

I am sure you could all use your imagination and come up with some really great new names.

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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/04/12 02:01:34 (permalink)
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Originally posted by geetee


Classic Fords powered by whatever you had under the bench in your shed



I like this comment.

I think this is one of the main reasons behind a build. Which directly sways the reason someone went a certain route, which in turn hits the budget or bank account due to the money saving or spending factor. Then the build is influenced by what skills and ability he may have and whether the person wants to be different or follow the crowd.

From looking at the Classic Ford Show in the UK this year I was amazed at how quickly I got bored of looking at RS2000 after RS2000 and Mexico after Mexico all in original enough condition. To get something out of it I had to look past the common as rust RS alloys and superlights and focus on build quality and the tiny differences. They were all to die for cars but you just get numb to it. Just like the orange cortina with the SR20 in it on the last cover of CF I can see why this Mk1 gets a lot of attention. It is just different to what the UK has gotten use to. Australia will slowly or already has started to go down the "if it is not original don't bother or get respect path from your peers".

Anyway I sit on the fence. I'd love a mint RS2000 mk2 2dr all original to just look at and drive in the sun. Then a mental mk1 like this or mk2 with no expense sparred with something (SR20, cossie or nuclear) punching serious HP out to drive in anger with a smile.

Each to their own.
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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/04/12 08:08:21 (permalink)
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I wouldn't be suprised to see it on the cover...which would be a great thing for the Australian Classic/Small Ford scene Unfortunately the UK is full of cars all done the same way...my car didn't get featured for 18 months after the photoshoot and article were submitted because they had just featured Rob Hibbards blue Cossie powered Mk1 Cortina, and it was and possibly still is the only Cossie turbo powered Mk1 in Australia. Classic Ford is a UK magazine for UK readers(offshore readers are only a very small part of their market), these cars with their unique crossbred mods are considered interesting in the UK and sell magazines...hence their cover appearances[;^)]
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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/04/12 13:29:49 (permalink)
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.... Just like the orange cortina with the SR20 in it on the last cover of CF I can see why this Mk1 gets a lot of attention....



if the car you are talking about is the 64 4 door of 'Dave Gardners'

who is in the running for classic ford of the year

its actually powered by a CA18 not a sr20
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RE: The Mk 1 Escort from hell! Australia's best? 2009/04/12 16:21:14 (permalink)
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I know this old guy thats into classic fords, owns a GT MK1 cortina. He will not read any of the mags Classic ford and others like it. Says with all the jap engine conversions its not to his liking. "would be like picking up a playboy with a hot chick on the cover just to open the mag and find its a dude!"

lol.
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