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2008/11/14 22:22:06 (permalink)
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mk2 sr20det

hey guys, finally saved enough coin to buy an sr20 (apprentice rates = gay)

ive got her sitting in the bay, i bought a xmember off of 510pom, and it fitted straight in.
ive noticed the steering column fowls on a cast of the motor which appears to be unused. see pic,
i read somewhere that people cut it off but want to double check incase its something i will later need to bolt to.




thanks
Shea man
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    wishihadars1800
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/11/19 23:21:44 (permalink)
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    keep us updated on the build Shea id love to see how it all goes because im looking to do the same conversion in my mk2 by the way what diff set up are you using?
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/11/20 22:11:08 (permalink)
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    Cut it off. It is not required. You can take it back by about 15mm.
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/11/21 02:01:47 (permalink)
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    Indeed! chop it
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    Shea
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/11/21 23:47:33 (permalink)
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    cool thanks for the confirmation, i'll get to it this week.
    wishihadars1800 im using a hilux lsd that came fitted to the car already, should go alright

    pictures are pretty crappy, not much of a looker but a fair stockpile of parts for the old girl, all of which including

    s13 sr20det w/ 5 speed gbox
    high flow exhaust manifold
    enlarged plenum
    ems dualsport ecu
    quick rack
    anti dive kit
    adjustable swaybars front and rear
    adjustable strut tops
    braided hose kit
    4 spot volvo calipers on brembo rotors
    bias adjustable pedal box with hydralic clutch
    hilux lsd
    fixed back racing seats
    4 point racing harness's
    half roll cage (thinking about taking out)
    autometer guages
    power windows
    central locking
    keyless enty
    alarm w/ immobiliser...

    enough to keep me going for a while.




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    wishihadars1800
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/11/26 17:01:35 (permalink)
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    looking good Shea with your cross member did you modify your standard one or buy a complete unit all ready to go for a sr20det?
    and with your fix backs im curious how you went about mounting them because mine are giving me a hard time nothings linning up aggggh would you be able to get a few pics of your seats and mounts cheers


    josh
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    Shea
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/06/12 11:08:07 (permalink)
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    hey josh, i bought a xmember off of andrew kemmery from here on the forum, a little while a go he was selling the last one for half what i paid, you should see if hes still got it as these are great, motor drops straight in no hassles.

    i haven't yet fitted the seats because i am waiting to have the motor and box bolted in so i can set the angle of the seats accordingly

    Shea man
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    Mk2_2dr_2L
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/06/12 13:17:38 (permalink)
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    Good to see that you are getting back into it
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    wishihadars1800
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/08/12 12:49:33 (permalink)
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    ok Shea cheers yeah il have a talk to andrew when ive got a decent amount of money to fund the conversion i gota finish painting the car first anyways haha
    cheers josh
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/08/12 19:52:18 (permalink)
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    Going by the photos, the engine seems too high, specially at the front. This means your gearbox to tail shaft to diff angles will be incorrect if the tunnel and floor are not modified extensively.

    The "510 pom" crossmember loweres the steering rack if I'm not mistaken. NEVER lower the steering rack on a street driven, lowered Escort. The reasons have been covered before on this forumas as to why. The Works Escorts had a lowered rack crossmember because they had "raised" suspension, and so steering rack angles remained the same.


    Have a good read of the following links. A little bit of info on the often overlooked (and potentially deadly) incorrectly aligned/installed tail shaft when doing an engine conversion.

    http://autospeed.com/cms/A_108655/article.html

    http://Holdenpaedia.oldHolden.com/Tailshafts

    http://www.gwb-essen.de/fahrzeugbau/english/seite_22.html
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/08/12 23:08:52 (permalink)
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    well jds as my little beast has been through hell and back and has stood the test of time through police and traffic inspections i would think it cant be that bad as they are pretty strict in qld and the angles etc of the tail shaft are fine and the motor sits fine with good clearance under bonnet all that with over 400hp @ the wheels you would think some problem would of showed up over the 8 years of the conversion !!!! and that goes for the steering angle and rack being lowered ,the car has been to drag, track and drift days with no steering problems ... every one who has a sr in the Escorts have spaced the x member down lowered the rack or if the rack is left at the same position THEN you will have steep angles and tail shaft angle issues which you would know of course! So while the rack mounts have been moved you have no idear how far etc and unless you own a escort with modded mounts for a sr you would have no clue on its effect eccept for text thats written in a book or on the net which you cannot always take as fact[:o)]!!!!!
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/12/12 21:27:06 (permalink)
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    510pom, I wasn't personally attacking you, appologise if it came across that way. I was only pointing out the fact that lowering the steering rack is NOT recommended and the fact the tail shaft angles ARE important to yours and other road uses safety if and when something goes wrong. But I would expect you to defend your cross member that you have sold to Shea and others, and that's fine. Again, I'm not bagging it. Just pointing out facts.



    In saying that, I would like to clarify a few things in your reply.
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    through police and traffic inspections i would think it cant be that bad as they are pretty strict in qld
    Traffic and Police inspections are highly unlikely to pick up tail shaft angles now are they?? And while QLD modification laws are strict yes, they're not as strict as other states. I know of a few cars that could not be registered in VIC and NSW, being sold and now registered in QLD.



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    all that with over 400hp @ the wheels you would think some problem would of showed up over the 8 years of the conversion
    Consider yourself very lucky. Let's hope your luck doesn't run out.



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    every one who has a sr in the Escorts have spaced the x member down lowered the rack
    Evryone?? So you know everyone who has installed a SR20 into an Escort? You are wrong. Not everyone. Don't assume. I have personally seen it done "properly" and they did not have lowered racks, spaced cross member, ect. The sump was modified and cross member and rack remained in factory positions. And as in the first pic of the steering column fouling on the engine, that cast bit is about 75mm lower than the column when a SR20 is installed "properly" into an Escort.



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    and unless you own a escort with modded mounts for a sr you would have no clue
    Ooookay. Since I don't own a Escort with a SR20 I have no clue.. rightio.[8~2]



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    eccept for text thats written in a book or on the net which you cannot always take as fact[:o)]!!!!!
    So books, articles, advise from experts, ect on modifications, be it on the net or other, are all bullsh!t?? Rightio.



    In saying all that, your engineer has approved the modifications so it must be ok.
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    510pom
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/12/12 21:52:12 (permalink)
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    ooookay i guess everyones entitled to there opinion, id love to see the sr sump or as you have seen it was it turned into a dry sump as possably lubrication and drainage back would be a issue ??? i do know a lot of people dropping them in and converted by others and not by me and i have only seen the sump of a c18 modded thats the 1.8 litre engine for your referance,oh 75 mm lower when istalled properly??? there is more that one way to skin a cat and there is no correct way to my knowledge on its mounting or am i missing something ????good luck with your future projects
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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/12/13 10:42:26 (permalink)
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    I'm going to put my 2 cents worth in here. My SR20det setup. Rack in standard position. Cross menber is not spaced down. Manual tunnel albeit massaged. Cover made to go over shifter. Standard sump. Actually have one of those Ebay winged ones there now. All fits, sump is close around rack but no problem with circuit racing. If you lay the motor over the same as nissan dose it all fits. It is tight around the tunnel where the bell housing bolts to the motor. No problem with steering column hitting that mount sticking out. Also looks like my motor sits closer to the firewall.

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    RE: mk2 sr20det 2008/12/15 23:02:27 (permalink)
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    Some pictures










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