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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 00:29:18
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Convert the C4 with a full Manual kit.
The gear changes will be lightening fast even when up high in the rev's.
Well done running a 10.4 1/4 mile with 3.25 diff gears.WOW!
You don't want the tyre's to loose traction past half track with highway gearing, you will be facing the way you came if your not careful.
Cars start to fly at 120mph+
The 4.11 gears with taller tyres will be safer.
Are you reaching top speed before the 1/4 mile finish line?
You should be near flat out before the finish if you want to run faster times.
MPH should be the last thing to worry about with a Boosted V8.
Great stuff johnopaul.
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 13:25:38
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hey maxrs,
thanks for the reply,
i was going to go 28's, but i couldnt fit larger then 26'' tyres on without some major mods :( so i went the 3.25's, mainly to give it some nice crusing ability :)
from my gearing and tyre size, i should have been going a fair bit quicker then the mph i was, iam not 100% sure but rpm i think was above 6500, which means the converter or gearbox is slipping a LOT in the top end.
so a full manual, will shift a lot quicker? that sounds like what i need, as the shift was bloody slow.
also need to make some boost on the line, as it leaves soft.
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 14:54:18
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They are getting those times in the UK with Cossie power, not a V8. Even NA Escorts are down to 12's!
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 16:45:14
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stuart, thanks for the info, i was unaware of that.
with a fully built 400+ci motor, stroker crank, rods, alloy heads, bigger turbo, w2a cooler, transbrake, cam to suit, blah blah blah, c16 and 30plus psi, people are making way way over 1200hp.
dont forget mine is a street car, pump fuel, street radials, exhaust, airfilter, engineered and rego'd, owner built, tuned etc, driven to and from the track.
btw i like cosworths :)
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 19:48:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Stuart
They are getting those times in the UK with Cossie power, not a V8. Even NA Escorts are down to 12's!
Can they do it for more than a day? before they blow up or need attention. There is a big difference between a 11 second 1/4 mile car and a 10 second weapon. 9's will shut the Four bangers up 
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 20:39:53
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i actually like a lot of motors, 4's, 6's, 8's and rotarys,
this is the first v8 ive owned or driven.[:I] but i dont worry about people running 10's in the uk, i remember when Brian munro was running nines around 1996.
as for my car, with some more passes iam sure the car will go faster, as ive only had two street meets in the car.
it has not been dyno'd etc, as its only street tuned by me, so theres a fair bit left in it when i get some more time to fine tune and play with the carby.
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 20:40:00
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I just did some calcs[:p] With your ratio's your mph at 6500rpm in top should be around 150mph 
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 20:58:43
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hey phil,
yeah with a manual the gearing would allow 150mph, with the auto i thought the slip would make it more around 140 to 145mph at around 6500rpm -6700rpm, depending on how good a converter is.
as i only had one full pass with the new gearing, i didn't quite get the exact rpm as i crossed the line,
but with a converter suited to na motor about half the hp and torque i would expect a huge amount of slip (the converter is unknown,so i doubt its matched.)
its possible the rpm was less, i could have been past the line.
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 21:11:05
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The speedo is the last thing on your mind when crossing the line at that speed!![:p]
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/14 21:22:49
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i was supposed to watch the AFR meter, boost guage, tacho and speedo
but iam not 100% sure what any of them where.
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/16 17:22:28
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Good work John, congrates on the times, Nines are just a knock on the door.
Let me know when you hit WSID again and i'll be there, if you have an E-Boost2 apparently i'm the only bloke around that knows how to tune these
Seeya at the track
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/16 18:48:06
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prob wont be back till next year :(
iam only running a simple boost controller, adjustable reg bleeding air to the top of the gate.
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/16 21:31:23
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Johnopaul, full marks on the V8. I know there is alot of money needed to get that 1/10 of a second. Good luck with the chase for 9's!
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/19 22:20:50
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RE: mkii escort - WSID update - 10.4@133.75mph
2008/11/19 23:15:24
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that's what dreams are made of!!
it must sound unreal too!
nice work johnopaul
[:u]
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