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Re:mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/08 18:05:01 (permalink)
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thanks shaun it was a good day out,
the day 'drift skills' is run by the 'Victorian Drift Club' http://www.vicdrift.com/site/ as a beginners day aimed at learning about how to drift your own car. from memory it was about $220 for the day which included a bbq lunch. + a $50 AASA licence that can be bought on the day and is valid for 12 months.
 
i found decca to be a really good place to start. as for the skills day they run 3 different surfaces. a very large smooth concrete pad, a very course medium sized area that is more street surface like and a small(very small) burnout pit which is heavily rubber coated and even has gutters to hit.
also being in a controlled environment and being classed as a low speed event no helmets or cages are needed so you dont have to worry about the restrictions a helmet give with vision and head movement ( surprisingly limited in an escort with a helmet on ive found )
 
As for the car, i stayed true to my word ( if the gearbox survived the drift day i would change the set up to a more legal/street friendly setup ) and have fitted the car with the 15" superlites and 195 tyres.
ive swapped all my steering set up with std items so that i can 'simply' drop the rack ends and swap when i want to run the 13" setup.
 
but as always i ran into problems getting the 15's to fit back on the car.with the current sway bar maxxed out to minimal castor the wheels still sat too far forward on lock. With not wanting to have to change too much stuff between the two setups i made the car fit the wheels.
 

 

 
So i did what i do best, got the grinder out and went to town.
and now they fit again :)
 

 
as you can see the cut is about an inch or so at its greatest but isn't highly obvious to the untrained eye.
 

 
still managed to get the wheels as wide out as possible with the limits of the std steering rack arm lengths. so that made me a little more happy to run the setup.
 

 
so next in the never ending list of things to fix/do is to get the geometry sorted with the car and its new wheels, then i want to put in the rest of the cage and go racing.
 
 

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Re:mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/09 18:21:13 (permalink)
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Hey Mish,
 
Sorry I've I've missed it but without going through every page, what LCA setup do you run? Adjustable I'm guessing but have you re-drilled cross member to gain extra camber?
 
Also what length tie rod extenders do you run?
 
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Re:mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/09 21:28:10 (permalink)
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the LCA's are the insitu adjustable ones from burton power, mounted using the std holes in the xmember.
when running the 13's i run the +40mm burtons rack extenders which are way too wide so i had to cut down the rack ends down to get them back to a decent length.
 
heres a picture of the set up from when i did it, (please dont judge me hahaha) it works
 

 
when running the 15's i run the std escort rack and tie rod ends on max extension. and wind the camber in till im at the toe reading i wish.
 
hope this has been helpful Rhys

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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/10 21:16:11 (permalink)
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nice looking ghia
i found out on my mk 1 that the twin cam sway bar mounts are different to standard ones in the holes are about 3/4 inch further back and out, because the twincam swaybar has shorter arms to make them stiffer as most aftermarket bars are modelled on them you might need to modify mounts to stop the wheels being pulled forward when fitting to a mk2 also,
that way the castor should,nt be affected 
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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/10 21:56:11 (permalink)
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Thanks Mish, I can't find my rack extenders but remember when I tried them on my blue Escort that they gave too much toe out and I've noticed you can now buy two different lengths.
 
I'm using same LCAs and standard xmember holes. Good to know it should all come together ok.
 
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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/10 23:29:50 (permalink)
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Do you find the sway bar hinders any gain in adjustment of the LCA's as I would assume the bar is always trying to bring them back to their original (factory) position?

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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/12 18:58:24 (permalink)
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thanks tony im aware of the twin cam bars benifits but trying to find one and the fact that i got this bar so cheap made my decision easy.
 
no worries rhys, im not sure what setup the rack extenders are for but i have the short ones are they were massively too wide so id hate to think how you would use the longer ones.
 
paul in most cases ive found using stock lca's and stock bars you usually have to struggle like hell to compress the bar enough to get it to fit the lca's, ive found with using the adjustable lca's its easier to wind it out more then what it is to wind to further in, as the unsprung width of the bar is greatly wider than the distance between mounts in a std setup

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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/12 21:46:08 (permalink)
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another thing i have been thinking of doing is rethinking my fuel setup,
 
at the moment im running a std drop tank, with a peirburg lift pump to a 2 litre swirl pot then onto a bosch vlt pump.
Both pumps and swirl pot are mounted inboot along with the two fuel filters.
 
This is my first concern with having rubber fuel line and high pressure basically inside the car and also the fact of having the std fuel tank with zero baffling. Ive noticed the later more so when drifting as u can feel the delay of the fuel tranfer in the tank on direction changes.
 
my plans (at this point with very little planning) are to cut out the entire boot floor from where it drops to the recess and replace at with an alloy sheet, either riv nutted of or pop riveted. then to run a Poly foam filled sumped fuel cell of about 45-50L proud of the new floor about 2-3inches, meaning it will still sit below the level of the rest of the boot floor. or raise the whole boot floor level to the level of the rails and run the whole tank under the floor.
 
picture of tank similar to what i would like to run


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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/13 20:36:03 (permalink)
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Y not jus mount the whole tank in the boot and run speedflow for the lines and an 044 + filter

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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/13 22:22:51 (permalink)
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dont want to run the whole tank in the boot as i would much prefer the boot room as i regularly drive the car and do some interstate runs in it. and i would also prefer the weight of all that fuel to be lower so that not to upset the handling of the car.
running the tank lower also means i still may be able to reuse the factory fill point in the rear or run the side fill too

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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/14 08:05:31 (permalink)
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Yer fair enough man
Have a look at this for som ideas

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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/14 20:12:32 (permalink)
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thanks, ive seen this car in the flesh, id like to run a similar setup with the tank but on a much larger scale, that one might not even get me to the shops and back.

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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/20 19:04:12 (permalink)
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Volunteered my time to the vic drift club as a scrutineer last weekend, gave me a good chance to check out some setups and sit my ass in some different race seats,
 
also found how i want to do my tank

 
in a xy falcon of all cars running a ls1, winning

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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/20 19:19:04 (permalink)
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said xy falcon
 

 
 
 

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RE: mk2 4 door ghia 2013/06/20 21:04:26 (permalink)
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Love the look of that XY. Just searched net for more info and couldn't find anything.
 
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