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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/13 09:03:37 (permalink)
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My dad was a mechanic, he did his apprenticeship with BHP fitting, machining etc.
Some words always ring true. I remember him saying the cost of retooling meant that manufacturers would squeeze the life out of everything. Engine blocks, many castings etc
Just look at most Ford and Chev blocks!
So it is not surprising that the bellhousing bolt pattern remained. Not working in the field like yourself Marty I have no idea of current compatibilities of components.
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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/13 20:20:36 (permalink)
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Sorry about the delay guys, springs a busy time for me at work.
Marty got the Escort window one, the Ghia's came with green tinted glass as did cars with factory A/C.
I think it may have been an optional extra on other models.
They are identified by a 'Tinted'  under the safety glass stamp.

 
Interesting info on the bellhousing, that engine would make a nice conversion for lower capacity motorsport classes.
 
 

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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/13 21:07:11 (permalink)
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Wow, 2080, that's years away haha long use by date !!

Yeah I been looking at one of those Ecoboost 1ltr turbo units for a long time , they're slowly getting cheap enough to really think about sticking into a Escort or Anglia for mega cheap fun... Just keep the 4 speeder as the motors can rev to ever lol
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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/14 18:55:49 (permalink)
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More Trivia time..

Inside the boot on the floor of all Escorts there's dimples placed in the ribs and a big dimple on the sides towards the back panel . I have pics of mine with the X marks the spot shown from the underside and how the floor looks from inside. I know what they're for but want others to see if they know. Again I have plans for these on my resto blog.

So what are they for ?
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Let's see who knows, and no cheating 🤣

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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/14 22:06:12 (permalink)
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More Trivia time..

Inside the boot on the floor of all Escorts there's dimples placed in the ribs and a big dimple on the sides towards the back panel . I have pics of mine with the X marks the spot shown from the underside and how the floor looks from inside. I know what they're for but want others to see if they know. Again I have plans for these on my resto blog.

So what are they for ?
Underneath pic


Inside boot pic


Let's see who knows, and no cheating 🤣

 Could they be for "locating" the panels accurately while being set up before welding at the factory ?

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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/15 08:16:02 (permalink)
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Back in the early seventies I used to own an escort twincam. There were four bolts fitted thru the boot floor which held on an angled steel pressing which was designed to be a deflector to protect the panel under the rear bumper. an early skid plate as it were.
Of course I didnt know about the dimples then but have noticed them on my current mk1 escort super.
My question is, when they designed the pressing for the boot floor, how did they know that they would be fitting a deflector there for the twincam?

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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/15 09:17:52 (permalink)
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Ron you are spot on there, it is for the stone deflector on the up spec models designed for rallying to stop dredging gravel in behind the back panel .
As for when the first model was being brewed up in 67/68 I'd guess the boot floors would be not stamped until it was required a few months in.. but was left there to the end of the mk2 !!
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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/15 15:40:14 (permalink)
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Wow thats a good one Marty, just had a look under the boot matt of my 1980 Mk2 and there they are!

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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/17 10:06:54 (permalink)
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I would like to know why Ford put 12" wheels on the mk1 escort when earlier Fords like prefect and Anglia etc all ran on 13" , but later escort went 13" also, what was they thinking going to 12" ??
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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/17 11:48:50 (permalink)
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I would like to know why Ford put 12" wheels on the mk1 escort when earlier Fords like prefect and Anglia etc all ran on 13" , but later escort went 13" also, what was they thinking going to 12" ??

My guess is they fitted 12" to 1/ allow the underpowered 1100 and 1300 engines to effect a better "launch" with 2/ the benefit of cheaper tyres/wheels "deal"  they may have struck with local Dunlop and Goodyear and ROH Wheels and 3/ lower centre of gravity ????  !!!!

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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/18 12:38:31 (permalink)
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When threads collide... may as well ask in this here in the trivia.
I read in one thread how vans are combo's of MK1 and 2. I'm guessing M2 front and Mk1 rear (if its a 'mk2' obviously)?
So for example, would my 77 Van be mk2 to the firewall and mk1 back?
 
I'd like to order some parts of Peter Lyttons (the other thread), if its the firewall where it changes, do I order all of the Mk1 grommets or Mk2 as both are available? Need to keep the oily Pinto smells out!.
Thanks Brainstrust.
 
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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/18 13:11:54 (permalink)
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Hey Deano, 1st thing...I received the package this morning, maybe fastway is actually a fast way !! Cheers heaps 🙂

With the Vans they are mk2 up to the back of the bonnet but this is where things get sketchy, mk2 van uses mk2 chassis rails so the leafs are used from mk2. The dash pad is shorter by 100mm or so , so are unique to the van as it's the dash panel. There's other things like door lever and locks etc... Bit of a Frankenstein car haha..
Grommets will be mk2 if there's any differences
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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/18 13:41:48 (permalink)
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ok, glad I asked.
 
Sounds like ordering Mk2' versions then will be safer.
Back to normal trivia...
 
I'll answer my own question: According to Classic Ford article, Bodies Silver Capri got rebodied a few years ago, swapping all the driveline, radio, cb, engine,diff interior etc...
So is it the same car? Does a car 'live' in its chassis, or in the bits you make contact with? or none?
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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/18 15:50:27 (permalink)
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Did the van rears go all the way back to the Anglia? Been a while since I've seen an Anglia van but I remember them being similar.
 
Being narrower to fit the Mk1 dimensions I've seen a couple of Mk2 van dashes grafted into Mk1 coupes/ sedans over the years. With the Mk2 door cards aswell its quite a WTF moment when you open the doors and look inside.

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Re: Classic Ford Trivia 2021/10/18 17:12:29 (permalink)
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About the rein'car'nated Capri of Bodie , this is my interpretation of a situation like that..
The car needs to be of the same type, engine, box, etc etc... But it should still be labelled as a reshell regardless.
Take the old RS1600 which Roger Clarke rallied as Esso Blue , the car was sold on after the rules and the mk2 came along, it went into private hands rallying and became a rallycross car which ended it and was parked up in a yard for many years. The shell was so stuffed it was reshelled during the resto, the car lives on but in another body. So whether it's a replica with original components it's heritage is still there and better than being scattered around the world as pieces...
If you owned a V6 Capri and it got destroyed in a prang and you reshell it, it's another car with the same components ,a replica or salute to what once was ... Apparently !
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