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2014/08/07 16:27:23 (permalink)
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how to remove this ?

hi , whats this called ? & how do i remove it (make a tool ?) to replace shock 
 

 
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/07 19:11:25 (permalink)
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    shock/damper retainer nut.
    If you don't want to reuse the nut, or not worried about damaging it, a pair of vice grips locked tightly around the outside diameter will remove it. Alternatively make a tool.
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/07 21:54:48 (permalink)
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    Gland nut.  It may be easier to buy the correct tool or borrow one if you don't do strut inserts very often. Vice grips work as suggested above but sometimes the gland nut is done up very deep and you cant get vice grips onto it.
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/07 23:38:43 (permalink)
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    cheers fellas , certainly cant get vice grips onto it , done too tight as you said
    so where can i find this tool ?
    cheers again !
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/08 00:08:28 (permalink)
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    Before you go to the trouble of finding/making a tool, see if you can get it out with a screw driver and small hammer.  You should be able to tap it around.  If not, take your struts to a suspension shop and ask them to undo it for you.
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/08 14:40:03 (permalink)
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    ^^^ yeah that did the trick mate ! cheers
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/08 18:44:53 (permalink)
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    "gland nut".
    Cannot be called a gland nut because it does not have a gland or seal, and the nut does not prevent the loss of liquid from a valve. The nut simply retains the damper insert inside the strut.
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/08 21:20:41 (permalink)
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    I put a tiny dab of locktite on the thread when it kept coming loose on my twin cam struts. Make sure they're done up nice & tight and keep an ear out for any knocking noises which may indicate this problem
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/08 22:12:01 (permalink)
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    I use a pipe wrench if can't move it with a hammer and blunt screwdriver. Also lightly the thread area with hammer before attempting to undo the retainer/gland nut .
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/08 23:02:03 (permalink)
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    "gland nut".
    Cannot be called a gland nut because it does not have a gland or seal, and the nut does not prevent the loss of liquid from a valve. The nut simply retains the damper insert inside the strut.


    Hahaha. Yes it can, and in the trade it is always called a strut gland nut.  mk2 escort actually came from factory with a strut GLAND NUT, so if you reused it to retain your new inserts it would still be called a Gland nut.
     
     
     
      
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/09 13:56:04 (permalink)
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    Whatever you want to call it Ive learnt that its a nut that can come loose in service so either use locktight or once its done up use a punch to deform the top edge of the tube, dont go over board as you might want to undo it again sometime.
    Another tip is before its put on fill the gap between the insert and the strut tube to about 50mm from the top with oil. The theory here is that if an air gap is left it will impede the heat transfer to the outside of the strut causing shocker fade and shortened life. ( the shockers life and possibly yours too).

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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/09 18:04:31 (permalink)
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    I'm glad to know this nut loosening off is not uncommon, thanks Ron. As a side note, Koni recommend 50ml of anti-freeze, not oil 
    post edited by ratta tat tat - 2014/08/09 18:08:29
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/09 23:12:51 (permalink)
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    "so if you reused it to retain your new inserts it would still be called a Gland nut."
     
    Absolutely correct the original Ford item was a gland nut. And the diagram supplied is correct.
    However the photo 70 Capri supplied is a nut supplied by an after market shock absorber company to use with a sealed damper and has no seal or gland. So it is just a nut.
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/10 00:32:48 (permalink)
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    "so if you reused it to retain your new inserts it would still be called a Gland nut."
     
    Absolutely correct the original Ford item was a gland nut. And the diagram supplied is correct.
    However the photo 70 Capri supplied is a nut supplied by an after market shock absorber company to use with a sealed damper and has no seal or gland. So it is just a nut.


    hahahaha its now just a nut , you keep missing the point completely. In the trade 'just a nut' is still referred to as a gland nut despite the technicality, so I'll keep calling it a gland nut so my suppliers understand exactly what I actually want without having to describe what the nut does. In the end of the day my intention was to help 70 capri with relevant info, so if he decided to chase up a tool to undo 'just a nut' he will have no trouble walking into any automotive parts shop or tool specialist and asking for a strut gland nut tool, and they will know exactly what he is after. It will probably say gland nut tool on the packaging and the invoice. 
     
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    Re: how to remove this ? 2014/08/10 01:46:33 (permalink)
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    For heat transfer the k value for air is 0.024, oil 0.15, water 0.58 so antifreeze would be better than oil but would you trust it corrosions wise?  But for street use do we need to even bother with oil?  No doubt it would be better but is it necessary or a bit of over kill?  
     
    I have seen some with a small tack weld on the nut to hold it in place.  Dont forget to put the spacers in the bottom otherwise the insert will rattle no matter how tight the nut is.
     
    For the nut name debate the original strut was oil filled with its own piston setup so it was truely a gland nut with an O ring fitted.  Cartridge style inserts are after market and were made to suit the original setup and tooling but I think they call them the retaining nut.  In some shops today the young fella serving you will give you a blank stare no matter what you call it
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