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2011/08/21 09:18:56 (permalink)
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weber carb comparason

hey boys, is there anywhere or anyhow i can find out the differences between the weber codes?
i had a 38dgas, and i think i want another one. but theres heaps of different ones!
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    Re:weber carb comparason 2011/08/21 17:06:07 (permalink)
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    Weber codes as in, what does the DGAS mean?
    i have a 38 dgEs which is an electric choke, dgMs is a manual choke and the dgAs is the Auto choke [water operated]
     
    is this the sort of info you're after?

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    micka
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    Re:weber carb comparason 2011/08/22 00:24:49 (permalink)
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    haha. makes sense.
     
    what about the others, like
    DCOE / IDF / DCOSP/ IDA
     
    from looking at the pics the 38 is the biggest std base
     
    as for the side draughts, how big is the common install, 40 or so?
     
    does a sidedraught provide much more performance than a downer?
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    Re:weber carb comparason 2011/08/22 17:40:50 (permalink)
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    im not sure about those ones.
    IDA/IDF are down draft, DCOE/DCO-SP are side draft.
    size really just depends on engines. i guess 40's would be normal, and 45's would be for well tuned, high power.
     
    you can also get a 40DFAV which is a 40/40 that bolts on to standard manifold.
     
    also, http://www.classic-ford.o...2093&mpage=1#42093

     
     

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    Re:weber carb comparason 2011/08/22 20:04:59 (permalink)
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    haha cheers man. tempting as hell. the wife was quick to say no to that one. maybe after ive rebuilt the motor if ur still got it. ;)
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    Re:weber carb comparason 2011/08/25 13:55:13 (permalink)
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    i was thinkin on another note. How do u work out throat size = X cfm?
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    Re:weber carb comparason 2011/08/28 09:50:36 (permalink)
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    I don't think you can work out cfm from throat diameter, you would need to get the carb on a flow bench.
     
    Just to confuse everyone us all, a few facts on carbs sizes etc.
     
    The old calculation of cfm= d x rpm x ve divided by 3456x100 is actually rubbish.  (this is usually quoted in most holley books as a way to judge required carb size). The problem is that 2 and 4 barrel holleys are measured cat either 1.5 or 3 inches of Hg (vacuum). A performance engine when being turned hard has bugger all vacuum high up in the rev range, try around 0.5 HG. Thats why race V8's regularly use 850 / 1050 rated holley's when the calculation will actually come out at around 640 cfm (assume a 350 ci chev at 7000 rpm @ 70% VE).
     
    To confuse us all holley doesnt even rate their 2 and 4 barrel carbs the same way, 2 barrels are measured on 3 inches of vac, 4 barrels at 1.5, so you can see a 500 cfm 2 barrel holley and a 500 cfm 4 barrel, WILL NOT flow the same.
     
    Manifold design also has a huge impact on carb sizing, a seperate runner design like we all run on pintos will need say 2 x 48 dcoe webers to put out say 200 bhp plus, but the same 2 carbs on a single plenum manifold on a 350 chev will put out well over 500 bhp. Conversely a single 32/36 weber (way less flow that a pair of sidedrafts a shared plemum manifold (stock carb and intake for a pinto) will produce good power, up to around 120 bhp plus pretty easily if the head, cam etc is all done right.
     
    Confused????? I am .....
     
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