This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2...

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (-Totenkopf-)

Sat, 29 Jun 2013 20:32:30 GMT

Oh ****...

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (beagle_senior)

Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:43:37 GMT

thats awsome, congrats on the buy... lets just hope you actually get to drive this one...

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (-Totenkopf-)

Wed, 12 Jun 2013 07:02:15 GMT

..yeah... she loved it...

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (5SGTE)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 22:11:13 GMT

Heard u took the lady for a spin ;-)

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (-Totenkopf-)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 21:37:54 GMT

Think I've more or less sorted the problem, appears it may have been a firmware issue, installed some newer firmware and things are looking positive. Only done about 5km of testing though so will confirm once Ive completed a more comprehensive test :)

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (fredhoon)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:00:18 GMT

Awesome acquisition James, consider me very jealous!

Make sure you throw a link into the MR2 forums if you start a build / tinkering log elsewhere.

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (just_ace)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:08:34 GMT

Fit itbs in between sc and head? Lol

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (robk)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:56:44 GMT

-Totenkopf-
With the original SSC setup they kept the factory ECU for DBW & also dash control, with the new solution (based on adaptronic select ecu I think) the ecu now controls the DBW & the dash.

If that's the case, it was definitely after my time in the company, so I won't be of much help due to my lack of familiarity with the newer setup.
Good luck anyway James.

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (-Totenkopf-)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:51:06 GMT

With the original SSC setup they kept the factory ECU for DBW & also dash control, with the new solution (based on adaptronic select ecu I think) the ecu now controls the DBW & the dash.

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (robk)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:57:11 GMT

I just saw Andy's reply on the Adaptronic forum...see what I mean about great support! " />

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (robk)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:24:27 GMT

cogs
Ahh, drive-by-wire, didn't catch that bit! I presume this is still controlled by the factory ECU, in which case it's optimised for reducing emissions at the expense of, well, everything that makes driving fun?

If it's an E1280S there's a drive by wire board available, or is the actuator motor just too slow? Rob, any thoughts?

It's not an e1280s, it's a special version of either the e420c ECU or the Select ECU, I can't remember which.
When Adaptronic was dealing with the SSC Lotus cars, I think it was after my time in the company, or close to that time, so I can't remember the specifics. They either replaced the DBW with a cable throttle, or let the factory ECU continue to control the DBW.

EDIT: I just saw your post on the Adaptronic forum, so we'll wait and see what Andy says very soon.

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (cogs)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:19:30 GMT

Ahh, drive-by-wire, didn't catch that bit! I presume this is still controlled by the factory ECU, in which case it's optimised for reducing emissions at the expense of, well, everything that makes driving fun?

If it's an E1280S there's a drive by wire board available, or is the actuator motor just too slow? Rob, any thoughts?

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (Knightrous)

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:49:25 GMT

-Totenkopf-
Good question, I think it may be the SC setup (or could be the DBW) that is already giving me the ****s. Its a large blower, too large for the engine really and the inlet tract is long. Most fitment of these blowers mount direct on the manifold and dont have an IC. These have an IC and associated pipework etc and the TB is mounted pre supercharger. At the moment when you lift off the throttle and depress the clutch to change gears revs don't drop for quite a period, I dunno, at a guess, probably a second or so before revs start to decrease. This is epicly annoying, makes it sound like you don't get off the throttle between gears and is likely working the synchros harder then is necessary. Its either the DBW being gay, or, it could also be due to the large pressurized inlet tract that must allow air to flow somewhere (into the engine, ecus still seeing manifold pressure so keeps feeding it fuel, revs are sustained until air is consumed from the inlet tract).

Annoying as hell, biggest gripe with this car.

From my experience, it is the DBW. Cait's Impreza does the exact same thing and it also ****s me off. The DBW seems lazy on coming off the throttle when you shift up gears and even looks like a throttle blip if you clutch in quickly enough. Then you spend an eternity waiting for the revs to come back down to the appropriate clutch release point.

It's not a side affect from having the throttle pre-supercharger or having a long intake path, look at the AW11 SC setups, that's how it comes from the factory and they do not suffer from this issue. The throttle pre-supercharger prevents any run on from the supercharger by cutting off the air flow to the supercharger and sends the intake into vacuum near instantly.

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (-Totenkopf-)

Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:21:32 GMT

Isn't factory ecu.

Re: This is what happens when you throw enough coin at your MR2... (Mrskylighter)

Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:22:00 GMT

Congrats on the purchase!

Seems strange that you would need to fiddle with the factory ECU to get it to run right?