Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Tree)

Sat, 30 Mar 2013 23:13:03 GMT

Hmm just curious do u guys think a 2ZZ Turbo or 2GR MRS would be competitive at the WTAC (entry level class)?

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (asimovy)

Sat, 30 Mar 2013 23:06:55 GMT

Yeah a 2zz MRS would be about even with an S2K, doesn't have double wishbone but is a couple hundred kilos lighter.

Against a lotus it would be far behind.

Again though when you consider price.....an s2000 or 2zz MRS would cost around about $15k just for the car if you want it road registered. $15000 will get you a heavily worked over turbo/2GR with suspension/tyres which will be faster than either of those cars stock.

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Adrian)

Sat, 30 Mar 2013 22:47:37 GMT

Yeah would be awesome to catch up. Can't believe it's already been 3 months since we all met up. Here's the website for Circuit Club- www.circuitclub.com.au. Next event is on Anzac Day. It's a thursday I think- public holiday.

S2000's actually have great torque down low. It pulls harder than a gen 3 3sge everywhere. Then at 7000rpm when I need to change gear the s2k has another 2000rpm to go. A 2zz MRS would be excellent. Should go toe to toe with an s2k no problems. With a bit of extra work there's no reason why it wouldn't match a lotus either.

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Gatesys SW20)

Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:58:15 GMT

Yeah Adrian chuck me an address for that circuit club wouldn't mind joining up use this cams licence of mine that I barely use ahah
But yeah I think with a worked engine you could get under 1.10

S2000 would be pretty good but most Hondas make zero power until 5000rpm ha

Yeah I need a cooler wouldn't mind doing water injection aswell
Before a track day just to deal with heat soak a bit more
And to help stop my pistons melting under constant boost
But it should by January have a decent setup already :)
Be good to catch up adrian

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Tree)

Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:45:43 GMT

Hmm I wonder what a 2ZZ MR-S would run...

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (asimovy)

Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:58:23 GMT

I think if you spent similar time and money setting up the suspension and used a050s or hankooks you could get under 1:10 with a standard beams engine.

S2000 is just a better car though, double wishbone suspension all-round, great engine and gearbox with very quick gearing when you use an aftermarket final drive. Not to mention it's a honda so sooo many parts available for it.

Much more expensive than an mr2 though! The lotus exige/elise is in another class again over the honda, and again much more expensive than the s2000.

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Adrian)

Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:31:37 GMT

Damn can't compete with that. I reckon even with expensive trick suspension, A050's and some engine work you'd be hard pressed to get an NA sw20 under 1'10. Maybe with a worked Beams pulling similar power to an s2000 but would be pretty difficult with a regular 3sge.

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (asimovy)

Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:17:03 GMT

The cams super sprint record for a somewhat modified car limited to tyres/wheels, bolt on suspension and engine parts with the engine under 2000cc is like a 1:06 or 7 at wakefield, pretty sure it was a lotus exige with an na engine.

Also two s2000s that were doing 1:07s, some great vids of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7gsNkNyIMw

They have A050s, headers and exhaust(about 150rwkw i think), intake and lots of suspension work including $5000 moton shocks...and good drivers!

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Adrian)

Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:48:26 GMT

I've been looking into getting an oil cooler as well. Should get on it soon haha.

Stock NA and NB are a second or so slower than an sw20. I've driven my brothers NA6 and it's just got no guts at all haha. Handles really nice. You can really adjust the attitude of the car through the corner. Only need to change your inputs slightly to get it drift or understeer. Whereas with my car you need to be a bit more intent to get the car to change stance.

My car did a 15.1 when it was completely stock. Motor magazine ran a 13.5 with a stock 86 so they're a little bit ahead.

Yeah Ethan let me know if you want to organise a track day. Alternatively, I should be at every Circuit Club event so have a look at the calendar and let me know if you want to book a date in. Another track is MDTC in Marulan. I haven't been to in ages. It's about half an hour closer than wakefield. It's a small, slow and twisty track so it's a great training track. Pretty keen to do an open day there some time.

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (B24)

Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:50:54 GMT

Adrian,
Will Grilo was doing 15's at the MTC in a completely stock FT86 so its not a lot different to your car. You car does have some minor mods but still quite close stock. I hope you can get out there for a few sprints and a few days at EC. It would be a nice change for you.
Ethan,
Make sure you fit an oil cooler and improve intake temps if your hitting the track. Two most important things to do.

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Gatesys SW20)

Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:33:09 GMT

Adrian we need to organise another track event
Ill be bringing my a game and my turbo ;)

But I'm sure you guys will destroy me on yor nas
Not sure if ill have learnt to drive it hard enough by jan ahaha

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Tree)

Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:55:22 GMT

I semi retract my comment. For some reason I thought u were talking about NA (Gen 1) MX-5. I dunno NC performance lol. Time to sleep lol

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Tree)

Fri, 29 Mar 2013 02:49:48 GMT

The S2000 would be faster than NA SW20 for sure (personally turbo would be closer match), 86 just slightly faster only cos more power and DW rear. If the NB is anything like the NC I find it hard to believe it's faster than NA SW20. Maybe equal or slower. Stock for stock. Well in my experience :) - (the guy tracked 4 times at Winton vs my 2 times)

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (Adrian)

Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:32:46 GMT

I might try and make a couple of super sprints through the year. See how we go for time and money haha. I would like to do a couple of Eastern Creek days. Very cheap compared to doing a full track day there.

Not sure if we'd be very competitive. We'd be running in the same class as S2000's, NC Mx5s and the 86, all of which are faster than an sw20. Stock for stock, the 86 and mx5 are about 2 seconds faster than the sw20 around Wakefield and the s2000 around 3 secs faster. Doesn't really phase me though. If I go for a supersprint it'll just be for the fun of it. Need to drive somewhere other than Wakefield for a change!

Re: Two NA SW20's score top ten finish at Track Club event at Wakefield (B24)

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:05:27 GMT

We will sort out the semi's for the next time at Wakefield. We did work out the tyre does not like it at 40psi. Works a lot better at 36psi. Ian had the cold pressures so we can use that as a starting point to see where it takes us.
Adrian, you should join Ian at a few supersprint events. You will both be competitive in your class.