SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (artymr2)

Sun, 06 Jan 2013 02:26:21 GMT

I just swapped the gen3 shifter into a rev 2. I measured the levers, my findings are different to the pic in the link above.

Disregarding and spacers etc (which just move the entire lever assembly up/down, and doesnt effect the throw) the actual lever differences are as follows:

Gen3 lever has the cable attachment point 15mm higher, and is 10mm shorter in length. The throw is significantly less and the knob also sits lower. It feels great.
If you are just after shortening your throw, you can DIY one easily with a piece of flat alloy and make it adjustable, and see how much shorter throw you prefer. I can email you a pic later if you like.

Cheers

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (Mrskylighter)

Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:49:44 GMT

Still searching for the shifter assembly (Or just the lever)
Also on the lookout for a used 94+ black gearknob.

Edit: Don't need the gearknob anymore as I just bought one.

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (purple5ive)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:31:51 GMT

ahhh peter posted while i was typing by the looks of it and seems like he is experiencing the same issue i was trying to adress in my post...

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (purple5ive)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:29:12 GMT

hmm, looks like the aftermarket brands, ebay b&m fake, TRD and B&M all have the cable mounting holes slightly higher than all the OEM models..
also noticable is that these models except the TRD one comes with the spacer plate thereby in reality lowering the shifter lever itself along with the mounting holes back to the stock level mounting points but also lowering the threaded point where the gear knob itself attaches..

cheers

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (Peter)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:24:01 GMT

Hi All,
I have a 96 SW20, which when purchased had either the B&M or B&M replica with blue lowering/spacer plate. Also TRD knob fitted.
Was also given original lever & bolts.
I wasn't particularly happy with the shortness of the arrangement, so tried the original lever with the lowering/spacer plate to try for an intermediate arrangement.
Problem was that the original lever touched the inside of the lowering plate in 1st & 2nd making shifting not 100 % positive.
Then reverted to B&M lever without lowering plate, which was considerably better.
Changed TRD knob for an AOne Auto SAAS type which somewhat resembles the MR2 original, which made the feel better again.
Only problem with this arrangement is that the cables rise from the fixing points under the console. Another forum reckons this is undesirable because it puts some stress on the cables.
I reckon that I am going to refit the lowering/spacer plate & see how that is with the longer knob.
Also want to get an original MR2 knob, & try that.
Hope this helps.

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (s2d4)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:28:54 GMT

If you are talking about the plate, there would be a difference in feel between if the plate was metal or polyurethane.

If you are talking about the lever, it is shortened, so a smaller radius hence smaller amount of movement would be required for shifting.

This page shows differences in the available levers
http://forums.bcmr2.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10658

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (5SGTE)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:08:00 GMT

So does that mean just the lowering plate doesn't actually do anything for feel (I know the knob will be lower but to actual movement feel or throw etc) just looks?

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (purple5ive)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:40:43 GMT

damn just realised that the pic i posted a link has both the spacer plate and also a gen 3 short shifter lol so im guessing using both is also an option..

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (purple5ive)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:28:32 GMT

Has anyone got any pics of these spacer plates installed
i want to see what the difference is as ive never really understood what they do lol.
edit - just found a link scroll down half way through and there a pic of the spacer plate installed,
http://www.mr2.com/forums/turbo-engine-talk-modifications-swaps/Toyota-MR2-61066-1991-mr2-n-auto-3sgte-gen-iii-lsd-swap.html
from looking at the picture you wouldnt want to install the gen 3 shifter and the spacer plate at the same time right?? cause that would make the shifter assembly reallly low into the console
would it be right in saying that either install a gen 3 shifter along with the gen 3 base plate, or install the aftermarket spacer into the gen 2 base plate to achieve the same outcome???
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Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (Mrskylighter)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:50:06 GMT

The plate just lowers the lever further down into the console. Makes the shift knob lower etc
The short shift lever (or whatever you want to call it) simply has the attachment point for the cable mounted further up the lever. Doing this makes the throw shorter.

That is my understanding anyway.

5SGTE

How do these things work? sorry lol I know I'm missing something obvious.

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (5SGTE)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:42:43 GMT

How do these things work? sorry lol I know I'm missing something obvious.

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (Tree)

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:55:49 GMT

The the Two's R Us spacer makes quite a difference and it's feels pretty good to me although someone commented after driving my 2 "does this thing get any shorter?" so then I said "nah it's not like yours".
It would have been funny if the second part was true " />

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (Mrskylighter)

Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:31:40 GMT

If you have one James and its not surface rusty etc i'm keen.
$20 Shipped? :)

-Totenkopf-

Nick I think I might have one in the shed.

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (-Totenkopf-)

Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:15:53 GMT

Nick I think I might have one in the shed.

Re:SW20 OEM 93+ shorter shifter assembly or just the lever itself (s2d4)

Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:52:41 GMT

They are basically spacers.