Freebee's project MR2 (selling or part-out)

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Freebee)

Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:49:56 GMT

so... turns out you were all right (still would have preferred a more positive attitude)...

a while back I went and spoke to the blue slip people and had a proper conversation... the result of which was that I either need to find who originally complied it or get it complied again from scratch... which i didn't really want to do...

so I wrote to vehicle imports in the dept. of transport, hoping to be able to find some info on who originally complied it... and after much waiting I got a letter that is equivalent to the original import approval...

so... as it turns out it was imported for racing and either the rules are different in SA/VIC, or it should have never been registered at all...

which leaves the one logical option left.... sell it off and get another one!

the plan is that I will be looking at offers for sale complete (as a hard-top race-only car) for the next few days, after which I will start parting it out... so PM me immediately if you are interested in it complete and from Monday onward if you want some parts (not everything will be for sale as im interested in saving some bits for the next one, eg. the P/S system)

looking forward to starting over in an aus delivered t-top (with any luck a widebody one)

thanks!

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (MCT_MR2)

Wed, 20 Jan 2016 09:24:14 GMT

Tom is right,

6T9REPV refers to a written off car that has been repaired an re registered. It doesnt have to be an import to have this vin, locally built cars get it if they were written off and rebuilt and re registered.

The issue would be if it IS an import vehicle, and is unregistered, unless you have different rules, in vic you would be required to recompliance the vehicle at your own cost. Locally built cars it will just get picked on severely. I also dont know too many places that will sign off a car with 2 different sets of tags on it.

Id be wanting the car to be immaculate to go through any pain and financial burden to even give it a second look.

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Dudeman)

Wed, 20 Jan 2016 04:34:15 GMT

Freebee
Dudeman
I admire your wishful thinking! - but I have to say I have never seen a VIN where a letter has been scratched out like that.

The best way to ID this car is from the Toyota stamped VIN, until you get someone who can say yes or no to this ID you are spitting into the wind.

also this being a jdm mr2 it shouldn't have a Toyota stamped vin, just a chassis no., so when it is imported it is supplied with a australian low volume vin (1st &3rd digits of 6&9 are used for low volume import and manufacture cars in Australia, and the second digit is a manufacturer code, in this case T=Toyota)

so to surmise, this vin is the correct one for the car, and I have spoken to the people who can say yes or no, and they say yes to it and the blue slip people say that there is nothing that can't be sorted in the case of a missing compliance plate, so long as you have a correct vin (which i have now found) and proof of previous registration (also have), whereas they say that a car with an incorrect compliance plate is as good as an unsolvable problem... simple

Don't get me wrong, I do hope this works out ok for you - but the odds are against you. When I say VIN, I mean Vehicle Identification Number, and it should have one of those from Toyota. A number, in the body/chassis, put there by some robot in the Toyota factory in Japan.

I won't keep banging on about it, but my advice is to get the car to a blue slip (or whatever they are called now) place or get the blue slip dude to look at your car. Quoting numbers over the phone will get you so far - you need that car to 'be as one' with the VIN and paperwork and then some number plates and have it done properly. You don't want to throw good money after bad on this. I will not say anymore about this car.

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (TomsMR2)

Wed, 20 Jan 2016 03:43:06 GMT

So it seems like the REPV part of the vin relates to a vin that is issued by VicRoads for a reshelled or rebuild car, so it might possibly be legal but usually unregisterable in NSW

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Freebee)

Wed, 20 Jan 2016 03:29:00 GMT

TomsMR2

So where did the photos of the compliance plate come from if you said they where photoshopped ?
Still sounds very fishy

I might suggest you take my wording less literally and read between the lines to figure out where those pictures came from

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Freebee)

Wed, 20 Jan 2016 03:25:44 GMT

Dudeman
I admire your wishful thinking! - but I have to say I have never seen a VIN where a letter has been scratched out like that.

The best way to ID this car is from the Toyota stamped VIN, until you get someone who can say yes or no to this ID you are spitting into the wind.

yes i do agree that its odd to have the mistake in the middle, however even though it may look "scratched" out, that letter is actually crossed out by stamping lines across it, disregarding that crossed out character it is a proper 17 character vin.

I have already done the checks on that vin and not only it is exactly as it should be for an individual import (in one of the correct locations, prefix is correct ect.) , but it matches the car perfectly,

from there I then contacted NEVDIS who informed me that it was originally imported into Victoria and in order to obtain a correct compliance plate I will need to contact vic roads

also this being a jdm mr2 it shouldn't have a Toyota stamped vin, just a chassis no., so when it is imported it is supplied with a australian low volume vin (1st &3rd digits of 6&9 are used for low volume import and manufacture cars in Australia, and the second digit is a manufacturer code, in this case T=Toyota)

so to surmise, this vin is the correct one for the car, and I have spoken to the people who can say yes or no, and they say yes to it and the blue slip people say that there is nothing that can't be sorted in the case of a missing compliance plate, so long as you have a correct vin (which i have now found) and proof of previous registration (also have), whereas they say that a car with an incorrect compliance plate is as good as an unsolvable problem... simple

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (TomsMR2)

Wed, 20 Jan 2016 03:18:21 GMT

Freebee
so here's what's developed over the past month (more specifically, the past week)

i took another look at the previous rego papers and noticed that the vin it was registered under didn't match the one on the compliance plate I thought was on my car... so i thought i better take a closer look in the frunk.... turns out that this was stamped into the strut-top all along:

and strange as it may seem... those pictures of a miss-matched compliance plate and chassis no. must have been photo-shopped... because my car actually appears to be missing its compliance plate, and I am currently in the process of obtaining a replacement (which everyone I have spoken to so far has been very helpful with), which once done should make the car completely registerable... (other than the current lack of roadworthy-ness)

so in the morning i will be contacting vic roads about a replacement plate as i was told to do by the people from NEVDIS told me to do

(and yes i have checked both VIN's, neither is written off or stolen)

So where did the photos of the compliance plate come from if you said they where photoshopped ?
Still sounds very fishy

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Dudeman)

Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:30:42 GMT

Freebee
so here's what's developed over the past month (more specifically, the past week)

i took another look at the previous rego papers and noticed that the vin it was registered under didn't match the one on the compliance plate I thought was on my car... so i thought i better take a closer look in the frunk.... turns out that this was stamped into the strut-top all along:

and strange as it may seem... those pictures of a miss-matched compliance plate and chassis no. must have been photo-shopped... because my car actually appears to be missing its compliance plate, and I am currently in the process of obtaining a replacement (which everyone I have spoken to so far has been very helpful with), which once done should make the car completely registerable... (other than the current lack of roadworthy-ness)

so in the morning i will be contacting vic roads about a replacement plate as i was told to do by the people from NEVDIS told me to do

(and yes i have checked both VIN's, neither is written off or stolen)

I admire your wishful thinking! - but I have to say I have never seen a VIN where a letter has been scratched out like that.

The best way to ID this car is from the Toyota stamped VIN, until you get someone who can say yes or no to this ID you are spitting into the wind.

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Freebee)

Wed, 20 Jan 2016 00:14:36 GMT

so here's what's developed over the past month (more specifically, the past week)

i took another look at the previous rego papers and noticed that the vin it was registered under didn't match the one on the compliance plate I thought was on my car... so i thought i better take a closer look in the frunk.... turns out that this was stamped into the strut-top all along:

and strange as it may seem... those pictures of a miss-matched compliance plate and chassis no. must have been photo-shopped... because my car actually appears to be missing its compliance plate, and I am currently in the process of obtaining a replacement (which everyone I have spoken to so far has been very helpful with), which once done should make the car completely registerable... (other than the current lack of roadworthy-ness)

so in the morning i will be contacting vic roads about a replacement plate as the people from NEVDIS told me to do

(and yes i have checked both VIN's, neither is written off or stolen)

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Highlander)

Fri, 01 Jan 2016 16:37:54 GMT

Freebee
and how do i tell the difference between 93- brakes and 93+ brakes

To best of my knowledge the rear later model calipers are marked 22V (see pic)
Early model front rotors are 25 mm and later model 30 mm

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (mr2y)

Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:49:18 GMT

Sorry to hear this. You'll still make money selling bits if it's not stolen (99.9% sure it's not stolen, if you study the bogan/meth-head mindset they have no need for a Japanese car).

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Mr2gtracer)

Wed, 30 Dec 2015 07:55:08 GMT

I'm sorry to read this :( Hopefully it doesn't owe you too much.
That said, if it isn't stolen and you are looking to part it out, i will gladly take the foglights and the brackets etc off your hands lol :D

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Freebee)

Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:15:00 GMT

Dudeman
Here's an old thread on anti intrusion bars...

http://www.mr2australia.com/mr2play/tm.aspx?m=53124

Can be seen on the inside door jamb near the latch, two bolt heads that may appear to be obviously non factory or not.
If your car had an import compliance plate it should have been to the left of the stamped chassis number. Green or yellow I think but that depends on what state it was done in. There's a good chance this car never had one.

I'd be checking out if the car is listed as stolen or not as my first port of call, but that just me.

thanks, that should be helpful...

also, finding out if its recorded as stolen is definitely the first port of call, but im also interested to know if the shell ever passed Australian compliance because it would help with evaluating my options...

although at this point I think im going to be in need of an new shell, and considering the mechanicals aren't in great order, I might as well just part this one out for profit to use towards buying one that is actually what it is... (after checking that its not stolen, cause parting out a stolen car could get me into some serious $#!%)

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Dudeman)

Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:06:17 GMT

Here's an old thread on anti intrusion bars...

http://www.mr2australia.com/mr2play/tm.aspx?m=53124

Can be seen on the inside door jamb near the latch, two bolt heads that may appear to be obviously non factory or not.
If your car had an import compliance plate it should have been to the left of the stamped chassis number. Green or yellow I think but that depends on what state it was done in. There's a good chance this car never had one.

I'd be checking out if the car is listed as stolen or not as my first port of call, but that just me.

Bad luck on this one, hopefully you didn't spend much on it. A good reminder for all of us to be thorough when buying cars!

Re: Freebee's project MR2 (Freebee)

Tue, 29 Dec 2015 23:33:48 GMT

Dudeman
If you wanted my advice i'd suggest to put that chassis number through REVS and see what you get, that or explain your situation at your local police station and they can look those numbers up for you.

You have bought the car as a legitimate purchase, as far as you thought anyway so you won't get done for goods in custody or anything like that.

If the car hasn't been stolen and is just a grey import that hasn't had compliance or was for 'race only' its probably yours to do with what you want - except for getting it registered, I doubt that will ever happen now.

If it was/is a stolen car and not taken off the stolen vehicles register it's still a stolen car, you'll need to get that cleared up - you don't want to get someones else's $#!* under your fingernails for selling on a hot chassis. If it's still on the stolen vehicles register the police can provide you with some advice on how the car may still be able to be yours.

Like you say, if it was rebirthed years ago the original owner would have been paid out (thats if it was insured) and have forgotten the car. Otherwise the ownership trail can lead back to the grub to stole the car (if it ever was stolen) and they can be pinched.

Because car thieves are &*$^$ (*^%^ and they do not get visits from santa.

Alternatively, ignore this advice and see how things pan out.

yeah, basically sums up what im planning on doing tomorrow, ring the rms technical department to see if there's any way it could be perfectly legitimate (on the very slim chance) then do as much checking as i can on the vin/chassis no.'s to see if either is stolen or written off...

although that's not a bad idea to ring the police to get it checked for being stolen

and yeah, couldn't agree more, car thieves (and re-birth/body-er's) don't deserve anything from santa

also how would i find if it has side intrusion bars or not, and how do i tell the difference between 93- brakes and 93+ brakes