Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (dasic1)

Fri, 08 May 2015 22:03:48 GMT

The radiator has water/coolant which cools the engine.
A intercooler cools the air after the turbo before it goes into the engine. Unless your car has been modifed yours will be on the drivers side in the engine bay, feed by the duct in the side of the car

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (initialvin)

Fri, 08 May 2015 19:56:47 GMT

hey guys
thanks for the replies

finally after a week in the garage, my mr2 is at home :)
is drivable but need lots of work over a few weekends to get it running good

so yea the mechanic called me this afternoon and told me they got the ECU back from the repair centre,
plugged in and haven't stall since,
I was on my way there anyways to check of the hand brake cable problem,

arrived the mechanic also pointed out to me some issues underneath the car,
the hand brake cable to the left rear wheel is completely gone,
Ill order one asap from amayama.com
some dried and fresh oil leaks at the bottom of the engine 0.O
car had a front end crash and the chassis is bent and causing the radiator can't be fixed in place T.T
what is that thing in the 2nd photo, there is a cable sticking out of it.....
(noob question - whats the difference radiator and front mount intercooler)
fog lights doesnt work and a ton of cables just laying around for me to fix later

the mechanic told me he wants to run the car for a while long to see if the stalling had been fixed
and he changed the engine oil and gearbox oil for me
I left for lunch and went to RTA in merrylands to get the rego into my name

when I came back the car was ready for me
the mechanic drove me around for a while, chatted a bit, he told he got a sw20 too when it first came out,
the car seems fine - for now lol
we took it back to the garage and I was waiting to see the bill
he charged me $1000 all up
I was expecting that - $80 for towing and $400 for ECU fix by another company
new spark plugs, got me another battery, minor service,

I drove home without trouble, but can hear some noise from the wheels,
I think is those fake brembo brakes covers..... the prev. owner had on

so anyways, will see what happens when I drive the mr2 on the weekends
hope it won't be anymore headaches for me
is alright I guess, I get what I paid for, $5350 for a hardtop turbo with 10 months rego
I will try to work on some small thing over the weekends

and I want to show up to the nationals lol

thank you so much
Vincent

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (Dudeman)

Fri, 08 May 2015 00:16:38 GMT

initialvin
I felt asleep as I was working on an assignment last night
when I got up I received 3 miss calls from the mechanic... ****!

called him back, and he told me he has sent my ECU for repairs, which cost $400!
anyways my mechanic also told me to look for a hand brake cable, as mine was just hooked on
I saw online from WTFauto for $104.14 each brand new
should I buy it off them or try to source a 2nd hand one here on the forum?

No, he's your friends uncle and you should allow him to order to the parts and add his % to them. And send things off for work without your say so.

Really - ask for advice, get an answer. Take it onboard maybe. (Not this last one from me as its quite sarcastic)

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (oneian)

Thu, 07 May 2015 22:46:08 GMT

How did you go initialvin? How's the Mr2?

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (Guest)

Thu, 07 May 2015 20:21:41 GMT

That's why they call it a business - nothing for free and time is money....

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (track_mr2)

Thu, 07 May 2015 20:12:32 GMT

Yeah they will charge you even if its fine. They will charge you a couple of hundred for looking at it. Plus your mechanics diagnostic costs etc...Then your mechanic will install it and realise that the car is still exactly the same. So eventually he will change the coil/ignitor and charge you for the whole lot.....(most likely, this is what I'm tipping will happen, I am strongly guessing its your coil or ignitor module). This car is a going to cost you a bit I'm thinking and cause you a lot of stress.
Hopefully it is the ECU at fault but his picked the most expensive thing first hoping its that.

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (initialvin)

Thu, 07 May 2015 18:04:13 GMT

I felt asleep as I was working on an assignment last night
when I got up I received 3 miss calls from the mechanic... ****!

called him back, and he told me he has sent my ECU for repairs, which cost $400!
I have located a 2nd hand one on ebay for $150 +$50 shipping from the states
but I guess thats why he tried to call me a few times.
he said my car is taking up his garage space and need to fix ASAP
crap at the moment I felt like taking it to Paul Brell, but the words didn't come out

A ECU repair shop won't charge me anything unless they fixes the ECU right?

anyways my mechanic also told me to look for a hand brake cable, as mine was just hooked on
I saw online from WTFauto for $104.14 each brand new
should I buy it off them or try to source a 2nd hand one here on the forum?

thanks for the replies

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (5SGTE)

Wed, 06 May 2015 20:49:29 GMT

jsnhrl
It could be the ECU. I had similar symptoms.

Mine went about 4 years back. One of the capacitors inside were leaking. Symptoms were the engine would just turn off while driving, independent of anything else (speed, load, rpm, boost etc). The speed and tach would drop to zero and the engine would stop. Because the ignition was set to "on" when the engine shut off, the dash lights would be active - I never lost power (ie. radio, lights etc.) but the engine stops because there is no spark/fuel.

After sitting overnight and having a cold start, the first time it would turn off 20-40 minutes after driving, then 10, then 5. It would progressively decrease that time until it would just crank over and not start. ie the more "warmed up" the car was, the more prone it was to shutting off.

Seems people are divided on the ecu... 2 years ago I would've been doubtful too but I've had the exact prob as the above quote in an extremely low mileage Bathurst, showing age is definitely an issue now. I initially replaced both the Ignitor and Coil with no change in the symptoms. A few screws and a quick inspection turned up two leaky caps, should've done this first but at the time I was thinking ~50,000km no way the ecu would be faulty.

Replacement ecu and its been peachy since. Its an easy check man and takes under half an hour to check and reinstall if its not showing leaks. Even if it doesn't look leaky I'd still try another ecu. I replaced both leaky caps in mine and it took longer for the issue to show but still it came back. Just my 2c.

Don't let this bad first experience turn you off these cars can be rewarding, best of luck.

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (EssDub)

Tue, 05 May 2015 15:05:44 GMT

Hmmm this sounds oddly familiar...

Couple of years ago, a local guy with a Bathurst MR2 had an issue where the car would just randomly cut out and refuse to start. Sometimes for a few seconds, other times, minutes.

Ended up finding that the cooling fan ECU in the boot next to the ECU was playing silly buggers. I plugged his one into my car, and suddenly, I was unable to turn my car off! Only way to stop it running was unplugging the suspect cooling fan ECU. It was one of the most oddball issues i'd ever seen on these cars!

Anyway, we got the guy a replacement fan ECU, plugged it in, his car ran fine and I can only assume its still going well to this day.

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (Carmikey)

Tue, 05 May 2015 09:08:03 GMT

Yeah, I've had numerous non Mr2 mechanics suggest the ECU is at fault... only to later find out they have all been perfectly fine. PLEASE do as others have advised, have a reputable specialist look at it.

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (artymr2)

Mon, 04 May 2015 19:49:03 GMT

If you know someone with the same car and is willing to swap ECU to test, it would be the easiest way to confirm if it is /isn't the ECU. It's a few minutes to swap them.

I did this with the AFM on a mates car, had random power loss issues. Suspected the AFM, we did the swap and it confirmed it.

Cheers

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (jsnhrl)

Mon, 04 May 2015 19:37:08 GMT

Crack open your ECU first and have a look at the capacitors/general condition of it. Might save you a few dollars rather than buying random parts on a hunch.

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (Mrskylighter)

Mon, 04 May 2015 19:28:47 GMT

Paul is actually not too far away in Girraween If your car is in Parramatta. You could get your car towed there and get a more accurate diagnosis.

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (Mrskylighter)

Mon, 04 May 2015 19:26:20 GMT

You should get the part number off the ecu to ensure you buy the correct one.

I have doubts on it being the ecu as well.

Re: Help, the car suddenly stalls on the road and won't start back up (Dudeman)

Mon, 04 May 2015 19:24:59 GMT

Hmm, think the test drive should have rang some alarm bells. " />

Hope you didn't pay too much for it initially, looks like its about to cost you a bit now.

Paul Brell is the NSW/Sydney MR2 specialist. Save time and money with misdiagnosis and guess work and get it over to him I suggest.

If there's a problem with these cars, he's seen it many times before.