Beams SW20 advice

Re: Beams SW20 advice (rikkir)

Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:13:51 GMT

Thanks everyone.
Now i'm waiting with anticipation....

Re: Beams SW20 advice (MR2QIK)

Thu, 27 Feb 2014 09:52:52 GMT

Congrats!

Re: Beams SW20 advice (mister_two)

Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:15:33 GMT

Congrats Rick!

Re: Beams SW20 advice (mister2)

Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:15:20 GMT

I noticed that an offer had been put in and was wondering if it was you. That's a really great price you got it for Rick. Well done!

Re: Beams SW20 advice (robk)

Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:04:06 GMT

Congrats!

Re: Beams SW20 advice (rikkir)

Wed, 26 Feb 2014 11:42:53 GMT

Well, i've gone and done it...My Beams half cut is on its way...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321308090165?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
I ended up getting it for US$2700 plus freight :)

Let the fun begin!

Re: Beams SW20 advice (rikkir)

Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:34:17 GMT

The rewiring i could handle, but its getting it up and running that might be a problem.....
But i do like the idea of having the original Beams gauge cluster. It still looks like better value and simpler to get the half cut atm.

Re: Beams SW20 advice (mister2)

Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:07:59 GMT

just_ace
Theres a guy in the us that can convert the beams celica harness to plug and play into your mr2.

The only issue is, the Bathurst body loom has different pinning to any other version from the JDM or US market, and to my knowledge, there are no 100% accurate wiring diagrams around for the Bathurst. I've yet to see one at the very least. The guy who did my wiring, who specialises in auto electrical work on JDM engine swaps, hadn't ever seen one either.

By the time you managed to work out what pins are where on your body loom so you could tell the guy who does the looms (mr220v), then shipping it back and forth from the USA, you may as well just get the few pins that need swapping around done here.

My rewiring cost about $600, which included all the repinning, as well as wiring in an HKS SLD Speed Limit Defencer Type 1 to override the speed limiter in the ECU and a Dakota Digital SGI-8D Tachometer Calibrator – which isn't required if you have the Beams gauge cluster.

Re: Beams SW20 advice (just_ace)

Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:42:23 GMT

Theres a guy in the us that can convert the beams celica harness to plug and play into your mr2.

Re: Beams SW20 advice (dasic1)

Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:31:00 GMT

The $1000 also includes the shipping and if something went wrong the insurance is only for the declared value. Just something to keep in mind.

If going after market ECU you really need it to be tuned on a dyno. There is a few people on here that could help with info on the wiring. Depending on what brand ECU you went you may be able to get a base map for it to be at least drivable.

Re: Beams SW20 advice (mister2)

Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:27:45 GMT

If you want to keep things simple, just stick with the factory ECU Rick. It works well. It's legal… and it's a lot easier than trying to tune an aftermarket one of you live 800km from Adelaide!

Re: Beams SW20 advice (rikkir)

Sat, 22 Feb 2014 10:50:51 GMT

I can't get the link to work :(

Re: Beams SW20 advice (rikkir)

Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:23:10 GMT

Thanks Tree,
The company selling it is going to have paperwork showing it only cost's $980 so it will get past import duties (dodgy buggers lol).
Getting all the plumbing sorted out i can handle, but its the ecu that worries me. I'd need help with the tuning, and theres no experts or dyno within 400kms of me (800kms if i need to go to Adelaide), so i'd have to get it there. Thats why the half cut looks attractive, but if i could find a way to do it here i'd look at doing the engine only.

Re: Beams SW20 advice (Tree)

Sat, 22 Feb 2014 03:15:32 GMT

Hey Rick, check out the guide to swapping Beams engine on the forum:
http://www.mr2australia.com/mr2play/tm.aspx?m=93280
It goes over the pros and cons of half cut vs engine swap package, ECU auto vs man, air box solution. Many questions can be answered I believe :) (but keep asking if not sure)
I think the beams is the cheapest engine swap actually, maybe not a direct bolt on in terms of ancillary parts but I calculated parts altogether whilst doing mine to make it work which was $2500, add another 1k or 2k for labour. I messed around a lot but that was all avoidable and unnecessary, thus the guide lol. The dilemma of Beams vs turbo is in essence "power to cost ratio". People can spend on whatever they want but it's important your goals are clear.

I agree with just_ace here as it was the same reason I decided to buy an engine swap package from local. I believe items over $1000 internationally will attract customs (check tho) so it's already $4500 before it's even landed on your door step!! However the list of parts the half cut comes with does look very attractive lol, pretty much a drop in. Do you need everything listed? Not really. (If it had LSD that would be really nice, then you can sell your engine/box and maybe recuperate some dosh)

So I guess it's up to you to decide spending more money and less time fiddling aka half cut vs cheaper minimum package but elbow grease/labour. Because mine is a stock motor, having the SW20 Beams b-pipe would've been nice for me since it would take months of lurking yahoo japan. Custom exhaust ofc solves this but again $$

P.S Since you have a gen 3 already, your swap is actually cheaper than mine because you can re-use parts such as the b-pipe, water outlet etc.

Re: Beams SW20 advice (rikkir)

Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:02:28 GMT

This is the link to the half cut...pretty much everything i'd need i think...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JDM-Toyota-98-Spec-MR2-SW20-3SGE-Beams-ABS-VVTi-M-T-Kouki-Engine-Motor-Clip-/321308090165?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4acf745f35&_uhb=1