2025/07/25 19:55:33
deano
ok, will check the manual first just to be sure.
 
You might be right about the vapour line though.
I remember the 2L 4 door had both return and vapour: I got them mixed up at the start, and the first longer test drive had the charcoal canister fill with return fuel.Oops.
2025/07/26 09:08:36
MarkA
Checked out my Ford 77 Escort manual.
Its from 77 when the 2L started that the fuel return line was added to the sender unit

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2025/07/26 10:47:12
deano
Thanks Mark for checking.
 
That might be a prob if the flange isnt configured for the return already, but since its not EFI and just running normal mechanical fuel pump, I'm hoping Martys experience of blocking the return line is ok
2025/07/26 11:07:42
deano
ok brainstrust, I haven't asked a dumb question for awhile (at least I hope), so here's the next one.
 
Dipsticks:
Before I fire up this engine, I'm not feeling 100% confident that the oil level may be correct.
The pinto itself I believe was a Transit version, and has had the sump changed to Escort.
The dipstick though, I'm not sure.
 
So, question is, does a dipstick measure the waterline  (oiline) level needed for the block, relative to the crank etc, or does it measure the amount of oil volume below the line in the sump? ie. what is critical?
 
I figured that if its the waterline thats important, that will be consistent irrespective of the sump shape fitted below, just the volume of oil needed to fill to that point will be different of course.
 
If its the specific volume of oil thats more critical, then I could drain it, refill with correct measured volume and make a new corresponding mark on the dipstick.
 
Maybe overthinking, but everyday is a school day as they say.
 
2025/07/26 11:15:32
martymexico
I don't think it would be a different dip stick or tube, I think Ford went cheap and just adjusted the oil amount accordingly. Escort is about 3.25ltr where as Cortina is 3.65ltr due to the larger sump pan volume. So fill to the correct amount or there abouts and check the stick, it should be in the ballpark and nothing to really worry about as long as you know you've got over 3ltr in there.
Also you used a escort pickup pipe so should be fine
2025/07/26 16:05:49
PartTimeMK2
So there will be an inaccurate read if the transit used a different stick and tube. Manufacturers calculate how far up the sump a certain amount of fluid will be, then they design the tube and stick around that height. The tube sets the height the dipstick drops into the fluid, so there are a few scenarios that are possible.

Larger sump volume than stock - it will still read "full" or "low" at the same height but the sump will have more oil in it to make it read on the stick.

Incorrect position of dip stick tube - For example if too long a tube is used, the vehicle will be overfilled with oil before the dipstick will read full due to the dip stick not sitting at the right height to get an accurate read. Too low and you get the opposite, the vehicle wont have enough oil because it will read the level too early.

Incorrect dip stick - This will have the same effect as incorrect dip stick tube height, due to the stick being too short or too long.

So as Marty says - Make sure you measure the oil amount before you put it in, then you'll know if the stick is right or wrong.  
2025/07/26 18:19:38
deano
thanks guys, that makes alot of sense.
 
I can check whats left in the oil container as well, and see if it took more than 3Lts.
It was a fresh oil change and filter, but I might change it again once its been running, and will take more notice.
 
Got the dash and switch gear back in today, but not much more.
 
2025/07/28 11:36:16
MarkA
Hey Deano, for my two bobs worth. Just ensure you have oil pressure, as well as the sage words from Marty And Mark.
I always err on a slight overfill, as if the breathing system is working you should be okay
2025/07/28 13:41:09
deano
will do.
I got the Accuspark in, without playing with the distributor too much, so I'm pretty sure the static timing was untouched.
 
The wiring loom has 2 feeds to the coil, the 12V and the one reduced by the ballast, so it made hooking up the Accuspark easy, just + and - to the coil.
 

The charchoal canister just squeezed back in:

later I'll use a catch can Marty gave me.
 
The washer bottle will now have to go to the LHS instead:

 
And dash, with with recovered carsh pad, and shiny plastics just the oil pressure gauge 

 
 
 

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2025/07/28 13:43:51
deano
with some strategically placed allen head bolts to fill in some holes I missed when planning the dash!
 

 
 
 

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