2014/10/23 17:44:12
GeeBeeN
Hi all, ... How To Eliminate Carbon Buildup in your combustion chamber, and then there's more, will work
on any engine, that's normally aspirated including superchargers that use a carby that has a venturi area
that you are prepared to drill a hole into to access this venturi area. Helps an engine to run cooler, with a
more dense mixture being burnt, so you have more power.!!! ... You may add a little Metho. to the "WATER"
which is what does the Magic tricks, it's then a water alcohol injector, This Device Sucks.!!!  
(i prefer lemon cordial, with my metho) ... S.A. guys, your Water Really Sucks, you may use Deionised or
Distilled water to gain the benefits.!! ... $10 bucks will cover building, 6"/150mm of 1/8" copper tube,
1 metre PVC tube, that's press fit onto the copper tube, I like a 2 litre milk bottle,(fat free of course) 
a 1/2 to 1mm drill bit, to carefully drill a number of holes in the copper tube, to allow metering
of Water Used, just Fine Tuning.!!! ... If you are aware that your car runs better in the rain, that's the proof,
this really works.!!! ... Eliminates Carbon, that's the main benefit, Extra Power, is Not Insignificant.
In 1948 farmer brown could only plough down hill, with a water injector he ploughed up hill also.!!!  
His tractor was a TEA20 Grey Fergi.!!!
 
If you are interested, PM me, i will and i will provide a working drawing indicating how/why fine tuning is
necessary.!! ... How's and Why's of component Layout and Positioning.!!!
I'm certain that clever Turbo members may utilise this Principle to extend their engine life.!!! ... Helping to
Cool Everything in the Turbo System.!!! ... Won't do any Harm either.!!!
 
Cheers, Geoff
 
P.S.
Adding 250ml of metho. to an 8 gallon fuel tank will absorb Some Water that develops from condensation,
helping to stop rust forming at the bottom of your tank. On a daily driver use with every fill, if on Hysterical
plates use the same amount to start, then an amount proportional to fuel added to keep your tank full after
every run, this reduces the space in the top of your tank where condensation develops.!!! ... This is referred
to as Preventative Maintenance.!!!
 
2014/10/23 21:21:03
evobda2
Seems legit..?!
 
2014/10/23 21:53:04
GeeBeeN
I accept your comment, it does work.!! ... In 1961 i drove a (holden,nasty word, sorry)
i was chatting to a carby whiz, bitchin about having to pull off the head to replace 1 valve 
he explained how it worked in detail, i asked if i could make one, he said go for it.
6 months later i had to see what was happening, the combustion chambers were covered in 
a grey dust like surface that didn't rub off, so i built another for a side valve V8 Ford of course
for a boat a mate and i built, never missed a beat, pulled 3 skiers on singles from a deep water
start, popped em out like a cork.
Cheers, Geoff
 
2014/10/24 08:57:49
evobda2
This video might explain a bit better. Ive seen it used for turbo motors where i suppose it has more of an effect but it would be the same for NA engines to a lesser extent.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkPFZWd8wj4
2014/10/24 16:44:29
GeeBeeN
Great find evo, the water & methanol molecules not only Cool, but burn off carbon deposits that 
constantly accumulate with use, absorb heat, then glow as its bonded to pistons, valves, hey its 
everywhere.!! Steam cleaning,?? i think the 2parts hydrogen/1part oxygen + methanol molecules
make a major contribution.!! Filtered air is a must, so you don't Dust your engine, this may be 
through a throttle body, sized to suit the Turbo used.!! I don't like their control system, of a pump 
assorted electronic control devices, too complicated for me.!! to be effective this needs simplicity.!!
Operate from 1500rpm to, say 10000 rpm, Me Thinks, this needs a development team.!!
1 car guy-very experienced, a dumb bugger-I'd put my hand up for that job, a management
person with legal & running a company experience, with car experience would be a real bonus.!!  
a gal, secretary, etc. that knows nothing about cars.!!
To bounce their thoughts off each other, using emails, PM's etc, Any Suggestions, Any Interest, 
Could be a hell of a ride.!! We would start from the air filter, then work forward.!!
... If keen PM me
 
2014/10/24 19:10:53
troppo
That metho trick is old as GeeBeeN said, used to do it in my van every week when i filled up. This sounds like a good forum project.
2014/10/24 22:16:07
GeeBeeN
Hi troppo, if you are interested in building a water injector, PM me your address, or and a Fax number so i
can send you a hard copy, i'm having trouble getting a #.jpg readable. as part of a post.
(the joys of being a computer dummy) LoL
If your interest lies in developing a Turbo version, great, have you had any Turbo experience.???
... benefits are the same as NA injection, stopping & eliminating carbon build up, a far superior power curve,
when compared to a setupwithout water injection, reduced risk of detonation destroying the engine,
from running a too high boost number.!! existing water/methanol systems, pumps last 3 to 5 years.???  
... a number that suits me better, (Hours of Use) to have the best reliability they need simplicity, adhering to
existing principles.!!  ... in real terms they're all trying to avoid infringing some ones patent.!!
Cheers Geoff
2014/10/25 10:12:59
troppo
G`day Geoff
I`m thinking it would be great in the escort i`m rebuilding now. Its currently running some fairly high compression and a big holley and is pinking on all fuels, i`m going to get the head shaved, larger valves and port matched to go along with twin dual throat webers so i was looking for something like this without even knowing what i was looking for. No experience with turbo`s to speak of only naturally aspirated. I can send you my email, address or phone number (I`m in adelaide. I dont have a fax so which would be better for you?
Cheers
Troppo
2014/10/27 20:09:29
troppo
Had a great time talking to GeeBeen on the phone today, i think this water/alchohol injector system is going to be a going concern. We both talked about what we wanted and the problems we have and it looks like it could solve quite a few problems, especially on a car thats driven hard at top revs fairly often. Its was an honour to "meet" you Geoff.
Cheers
Troppo
2014/10/28 08:57:34
smallvan
We used that system in the 70s on a gtr xu1,converted a washer bottle to squirt down the carbs at high revs.It was rough  but it worked,i think from memory it was a long time ago, we bought a yard watering system for the sprayends.And linked them via a switch hooked to the throttle,dont ask me how it was to long ago.And my memory is shot.
   
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