2014/07/04 08:37:47
rallyrs
Tick for the hilux, been under there for 5 years .its the wider early 80's model but can still fit my 185-13 rally tyres or 205-13 semis. Our other car has a scorpion diff with facrory disks which is wider but helps fill our the forest arches. In hindsight should have kept the 5 bolt falcon pattern on mine and converted the front to 5 stud for more rim options/availability
2014/07/04 08:41:58
RSman4ever
What about Toyota hiace vans did they have the same diff as the utes? Like you said the ute diff are getting hard to find you could get lucky and find an old van
 
2014/07/04 09:40:10
jpayne
I have a Hiace van diff, same as the wider hilux
Hilux short, Hiace long

how much longer!

JP
2014/07/04 09:51:26
MK1_Oz
the hiace axle the same diameter?
2014/07/04 09:58:19
troppo
Good question Mk1_Oz, i think they are
 
2014/07/04 10:14:22
jpayne
I should add I believe they are good for about 350HP before they become troublesome.
I haven't worried them yet!.
 
JP
2014/07/04 10:22:45
sundowner
VOTE 1 BORGIE
borg warner diff in mine is the best thing ion the car go the borgie... 
 

 
 
2014/07/05 19:15:51
HighRevs
Sundowner do you notice much difference in the weight? What was it originally from?
 
I've got some weight figures after searching for awhile
BW78: 64kg with brakes minus oil
Hilux: somewhere between 62-80kg (62 seems to be weight minus brakes and oil, 80 is with brakes and LSD centre but no oil, I assume this is possibly a 6 stud long axle although it is not mentioned)
English: 45kg with brakes, oil and 4 link mounts
Atlas: 48kg with oil but no brakes
 
Since sorted from forums throughout the net (mainly from lotus and rotary sites) I'd take each of those weights with a large dash of salt. People say that the hilux is easier to lift and carry around but anyone that has posted up weights has had them weigh around the same as the BW. I'm most surprised at the good 15kg of unsprung weight between even the lightest hilux and the heaviest english.
 
All that extra unsprung weight has scared me a bit, especially as I'd go up to 15"s with the BW to clear the brakes, adding even more weight. Has anyone broken a beefed up english?
 
Trent
 
2014/07/06 22:25:38
martymexico
My van is going to be pushing around 220bhp from my zetec and am over the comfortable power range of the English axle even with lsd, it'll be axles that snap which I'm not liking.
I was 'given' a hilux diff with a TruTrac lsd for making some fglass components ...I'm not sure of the ratio yet but it'll require cutting down some 80mm . If I didn't acquire this diff I would have chosen a Borgie simply cause they are common and literally unbreakable. ie my neighbor used to have a '76 falcon GXL wagon (factory bw lsd) , he installed a 460ci v8 and for 2yrs of driving like a loon the diff was just starting to make a faint howling noise, they won my vote for being tough as..
2014/07/07 00:02:40
evobda2
You cutting down the existing hilux axles Marty or replacing with new shorter ones e.g. eurospeed?
 
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