2014/01/14 11:47:24
war
doing up my head on pinto 2L
i know i should be starting with a 1.6L pinto head, but where do you find them?
so can someone help out how to get the 2L head to the 10.5:1 compression ratio, i guess the only way is to machine the head, does anyone have the head height measurements  to get that compression and if i there is any other tricks i am missing.
also looking for a fast road cam, if some has one (140-150hp aim)
2014/01/14 14:38:46
Matt75
You can also machine the block so the pistons sit flush.  This is a better way than machining the head though the head may benefit from a machine to ensure it's dead straight.  It's a combo of many different things though.
 
I have a standard head at home I can measure.
 
Cheers,
 
Matt
2014/01/14 16:00:05
gazz
im going to make a lot of assumptions about your engine and say that you probably have a standard bottom end.
to machine the block your going to need to pull your engine out and apart and im going to assume that you don't want to do that. in which case your pistons probably aren't going to come up anywhere near flush with the top of your block.
assuming you are going to use a felpro gasket with about 1mm compressed thickness.
 
so lets say that you probably need a combustion chamber of about 40-42cc's to achieve your desired 10.5:1
 
so you are probably going to have to machine between 1 and 1.5mm from your head.
 
hope that helps.
 
 
2014/01/14 20:19:30
war
thank you
so if i machine the block to be flat with pistons and standard head it would be about right?
or if i machine the head to have 40cc's in the chamber its would be about right.(standard block)
and the best way is to machine the block?
PS  i am taking motor out to freshin it up and do porting and new camshaft, using felpro/durapro gasket kit, twin idf 44 webers and pacemaker big bore extractors,verrier cam wheel just need a camshaft now, car is for weekend fun road use.
2014/01/15 08:35:30
spigot
Is this a hc or lc motor?

Best to work it out once the engine is disassembled. There are a heap of online calculators. If the pistons are a mile down the hole you don't necessarily want to be lopping a heap off the deck.
2014/01/15 10:29:57
war
high compression
2014/01/15 11:34:08
spigot
In reality compression is tied to your cam choice which is tied to your hp and rev range goals. I wouldn't be choosing some arbitrary compression ratio.
2014/01/16 20:46:07
Flighter
What spigot said is correct.  I might have to decrease my C.R. to use a cam I am considering, so start with the cam and work from there.
2014/01/17 15:17:56
war
I have decided on a FR33... thanks now just compression ratio to do..
2014/02/04 22:30:03
Timw
It would be a lot better to start from head airflow, then compression ratio, then expected max torque rpm then get to know some one that can explain how the cams on a pinto actually work, as where is a lot to learn.
 
Engine tune software will tell you what is theorically possible but the real test is on the dyno when even more variables are at play.
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