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  • Want to buy a RS2000 do you buy a 4door or a 2door (p.2)

2012/07/17 21:18:28
Matt75
I have had a number of MKII RS2000's as first cars (3 in total) and I sold two of them (2 door & a 4 Door) for only a few grand about 9 years ago.
 
I very much regret doing so everyday.
 
As suggested go look at everything available and you'll soon make your mind up when you find the right car for you whether it be a 4 door of 2.
 
Cheers,
 
Matt
2012/07/18 13:41:55
na.charrett
As an owner on 9 (yes 9 !) /mk2 Escorts currently, my current tally is six 2 doors and  three four doors...  Two of the 4 doors are the rare Midnight Blue factory colour too (One for sale too).
Two doors for racing are much more sought after (mostly flat fronts, but some like the RS front too) and that is one reason 2 door shells is Aus have skyrocketed  in the last 5 years.  My two doors are mostly well modified (race/rally/autocross and motorkhana), but the 4 doors are substantially cheaper. hence why my four door RS was originally bought.  It was used on the road for over 10 years by me - only coming off general road duties 2 years ago - its mods were limited to LPG and a 5 speed to suit its purpose at the time.
 
Ultimately it will come down to YOUR preference as I actually prefer 4 doors for the simple reason that it is easier to reach the seatbelt.... (first 2 escorts i looked at back in 88 were a tow and a four door and that is where my preference came from at the time.) But 2 door are easier getting into with a full cage...
 
A major factor now will be condition - remember the youngest Mk2 is now around 32yo (excluding the RACV vans) - so condition and availability of parts/panels is now an issue....   Having both I can tell you it is much easier AND cheaper finding four door parts than two door parts.....  I have 2 sets of good 4 door trims, but getting a 1/2 decent set of 2 door ones (yes you can buy them repro - but at $880 pair...) and I have been trying to collect a decent pair of 2 door trims for few years now...
 
Prices - For a reasonable condition four door you will pay around 20-30% less.  My 4 door for sale is asking $4.5K and is mechanically strong, but bodywise is going to need a tidyup, but if it were a 2 door I would be chasing $6K for it.   GDub recently sold his EC 4 door for around $10K, but around 6 years ago got $13K for an EC Monza Red 2 door.   Do you want it to drive or for collecting or as an investment.  One of my 2 doors I am keeping as a "spare complete" shell, but if I got offered the right money then it would go now as I figure that the demand for clean rust free shells is only going to go up over time as they become harder to find in GC.
 
Collectability - RS2000's are always going to be more costly than flat fronts and therefor more likely to be more pampered.  Looking at Small Ford Sunday over the last few years has seen a substantial relative increase of pampered 4 door RS's, but the 2 doors still outnumber the 4 doors easily.  Colour is a factor and most RS's seem to be Monza Red (also my choice of colour), but second most common are PinenLime and White.  Only once have I seen at SFS another Midnight Blue RS (4 or 2 door), and silver and black are very (very!) rare.  In my 15 years of having my midnight blue RS I have only ever seen two other 4 doors and a single 2 door on the road in that colour.  (I have heard of another couple being restored in the 2 clubs I am in).  What was scrapped only a few years ago, would have been worth $$$ in a few years.  Look at England - they all want 2 doors, but some magazine feature cars are being built on 4 doors now as the 2 door prices are very very high and dragging up the 4 door prices too.
 
Ultimately it will come down to
  • Condition, condition, condition (as they say in real estate...)
  • Price
  • Collectability
  • Modifications (over the top / non period type modifications do hurt a cars value and this factor is now coming into play and will become more so as time goes on
  • Why you want it / What you are going to use it for............
2012/07/18 13:49:40
na.charrett
Talking about Aussie cars here of course... The 25 Mk1 RS2000's an 25 Mk2 Rs2000's imported for racing homologation in 74 and 74 are worth considerably (magnitudes!) more than any Aussie RS and always will be unless the UK/German one has been totally butchered....
 
 
Oh - my pick is that in a few years time the Poms will start hunting out the Aussie 4door RS2000's as they were not available outside Aus and Nz... That may push prices / demand of 4 door RS's in the future...
2012/07/19 20:53:30
mark56
There is a 2 door midnight blue that needs a bit of work on ebay at the moment. not bad for 5k i reckon!
2012/07/20 18:19:46
shepv8
Yeah, Im surprised someone hasnt snapped it up, I think its buy it now price is $7000. If you believe the advice on here a midnight blue 2 door is the most collectable of the Aust. Rs2000's
2012/07/20 19:04:25
jimmyd
I would have if I could convince the wife to let me build another shed - have a matching 2 & 4 door then
 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-Escort-RS-2000-NO-RESERVE-/290746555778?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item43b1d85d82
 
Would have to be a big shed though, would want to buy my mates 4 door Yellow RS2000 thats been hibernation under cover for the last 20 years as well.
 
http://www.rsmotorsport.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2950
 
2012/07/20 21:10:18
RSS-080
I looked at the blue rs 3 years ago when it sold on ebay, compliance plates didnt match chassis number and was riddled with rust, hence seamingly very realistic sale price i guess. I sold a 4 door when an opportunity to buy a matching numbers 2 door presented itself so i agree with others about buying to suit your own preferences and intended use. If you are not in a hurry good examples of both turn up reasonably often. I looked at quite a few before finding one i was happy with. Good luck with the search
2012/07/20 23:36:50
na.charrett
Me personally, I steer well clear of any car (especially one you are looking at collecting/restoring) that the compliance plates do not match the chassis number... For ultimate collectability a matching engine number (to the compliance plate AND chassis plate) is desirable by some people. Forget even condition as the most important factor, if something does not smell right - walk away. Last thing you want after spending hundreds of hours and thousands of $$$, is for the sherrif to turn up to reposess a rebirthed car you thought was yours...

If something is too good to be true, it generally is....
The midnight blue rs 2 door on eBay seems like a reasonable buy in standard reasonable condition, providing its compliance plate etc checks out. Seems to be riding a little high in the photos, so either the suspension has been redone, or my recollection of rs heights is of slightly lowered ones (which is possible!)
2012/07/24 18:02:14
SaggaRS
jimmyd

There were less four doors made, variously reported as somewhere around 800 in total. They were Aus market only too so could possibly be the rarest form of MK2 RS2000s built globally

 
What about an automatic! Australia was the only place in the world you could buy an auto RS! Wouldn't think there were too many delivered, so one of those would be even rarer!
2012/07/24 18:23:23
shepv8
yeah, I reckon half the autos would have been converted to manual too, so a midnight blue 4 door auto looks to be the collectors diamond in the rough !!!!!!
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