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  • Front brake upgrade Mk2

2013/08/21 11:40:47
79Escort
G'day guys Im looking into getting new rotors, pads and lines for my car. The car is driven daily so the pads will need to work cold and I will be attending track days. I have never done any work on brakes so my knowledge is not very good.
 
At the moment I cannot afford a proper big brake upgrade so I want to do new rotors (old ones getting thin), pads and lines that will be an easy bolt-on, no hassle upgrade.
 
As far as pads go I was thinking EBC Redstuff but I am open to all opinions
 
For rotors I dont have much of an idea of what I should do, whether I get a solid standard replacement rotor or one that is slotted. Also am I right in thinking I would need a different caliper to have a vented rotor due to it being wider? Because ultimately vented (Im assuming) would be better as more heat would be let out.
 
And now to lines.....My current ones have cracks and I dont want a line failure on the track. I understand rubber lines can flex whilst braking but I have heard that braided lines are not legal here is SA and if that is the case I would rather neglect the better performance for a lower chance of getting defected and put through regency.
 
Any help would be much appreciated as I really do not have much idea and I need to get these brakes done before I go to Mallala on 30th September.
 
Cheers, Ryan
2013/08/21 13:02:52
war
I have done vented discs and calipers great upgrade, you can just do the vented discs and a spacer kit.
see http://smckaperformance.com.au/ he has parts.
Then later on you can do calipers.
2013/08/21 14:18:16
79Escort
Thanks for that war,
 
In that case I will definitely go for a vented rotor being that simple. Am I better off getting a drilled and slotted rotor instead of a plain face? The benefit is obviously more surface area for better cooling but what are the downsides apart from cost and how much will the cooling be increased?
 
Cheers, Ryan
2013/08/21 14:26:41
2lt_Scort
G'Day Ryan,
 
For budget setup I agree, go a spacer kit in your calipers and run a vented rotor. I have used dimpled/slotted and EBC greens with good results at Mallala.
 
As far as braided lines go, all the stuff I know of out of UK is not ADR approved and technically illegal for your car so take your hoses to any decent brake joint and get them replicated with the braided s/s, ensure they are ADR approved and tagged as such so that if you even need to go through an inspection, the inspector can easily identify them.
 
Try http://www.braidedhoses.com.au/
 
P.S. Is it a Practice day or a private event?
 
Cheers,
Rhys
 
2013/08/21 16:24:33
79Escort
Thanks for the advice Rhys that's very helpful.
 
I just had a look on the EBC website and it seems as though the difference between green and red is the recommended power range. Green up to 200hp and red for heavier cars above 200hp. So I would DEFINITELY be in need of greens.
 
Oh ok thanks, I didn't realise that braided lines could be approved but in that case it might be a good option.
Ill contact the place in Keswick that sells those and get a price.
 
I believe its a private event as it was set up through someone a mate knows and there was a limit on how many cars.
Can't wait, its my first one and I bought some formula ford tyres to chuck on for the day.
 
Where did you buy your rotors from Rhys? Also was thinking ebay for the pads, they seem pretty cheap on there.
 
Cheers, Ryan
2013/08/21 16:53:41
79Escort
Was just quoted roughly between 80 and 90 bucks for a set of approved braided lines made up and the bloke said "pick a colour"....think black is the way to go, couldn't imagine having colourful brake lines.
 
Thought that price was quite reasonable for a hassle free mod.
2013/08/21 17:13:15
Noono
Hi Ryan,
 
I've got solid grooved discs, standard calipers & Ferodo DS2500 pads on my Mk2.
I don't get any fade on the track - but only 115 rwhp, so wouldn't have the speed of some!
Pads need a bit of heat, so not ideal for the street.
 
Cheers, Gregg
2013/08/21 17:26:37
79Escort
Thanks Gregg,
 
That's good to know that you don't get fade with solid discs, I reckon ill go for the spacer and vented option though as It might be a good setup for the future if I happen to get more power.
 
Seems like everybody so far has slotted/drilled rotors, anyone out there running a flat face and doing track work?
 
Cheers, Ryan
2013/08/21 19:06:17
2lt_Scort
I'm trying to remember about rotors, possibly someone of this forum? Or through their work. 
 
Ring around RDA rotors are quite cheap.
 
Brake lines sounds very cheap....check thats not each line? Mine were about $60/line 7-8 years or so ago. If that's correct, that's a great deal.
 
You're doing the right thing sorting brakes and getting some tires with grip. 
 
You'll have a ball!
 
Rhys
2013/08/21 19:35:30
79Escort
Ok no worries I will see how I go as far as brands and prices go.
 
I found some on smckaperformance.com that aren't grooved for $70 each disc so I've got a starting guide.
 
Yea I checked that it was the whole set when he said and he said yes so I'm really happy with that now! Better get them made before he changes his mind.
 
Thanks Rhys, I figured I'd better have a car that stops properly, brakes are the last thing I want to skimp on.
 
I only paid 150 for 4 half used formula ford tyres so thought that would be better than wrecking my road tyres.
 
Cheers, Ryan
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